Clandrel Posted July 25, 2010 Share #1 Posted July 25, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, My two frames won't match up 100%. It looks like this (see pic). They match up horisontally, but not vertically. Do I need to send my M9 to Solms? Is this something the dealer can fix? /c Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/126968-do-i-need-to-send-my-m9-to-solms/?do=findComment&comment=1387706'>More sharing options...
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marknorton Posted July 25, 2010 Share #2 Posted July 25, 2010 Vertical misalignment of the rangefinder is quite easy to fix but you need to be happy to remove the red dot with a wooden toothpick and, ideally, have the proper tool to make the adjustment. Take a look at my anatomy thread on the M8 forum to see what's required. There's a guy from China selling a tool on ebay which works fine and costs a fraction of the official tool. Focussing is much easier when the rangefinder vertical alignment is perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 25, 2010 Share #3 Posted July 25, 2010 If you are going to do this, you will have to soften the blob of glue that fixes the adjustment fork by applying a mini-drop of acetone and waiting for a minute. Then you can adjust as Mark mentions, and the glue will harden again restoring the fixation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted July 25, 2010 Share #4 Posted July 25, 2010 Hmm, I'm surprised nobody has volunteered the 'whack it from the botton/top' approach (I'm not the one to recommend that btw). If you're intimidated by the thoughts of removing the dot without destroying it, sourcing the adjustment tool and then softening the glue & adjust/try/test/readjust cycle then you might find it easier to find a decent Leica repair shop locally to do this. It might save a lot of heartache. Solms obviously can adjust the RF but then again so can just about any decent Leica repair tech out there for a much quicker turnaround. The point is though, as Mark & Jaap mentioned, it is a simple adjustment. (I know from experience that it makes a HUGE difference to usability when the RF is vertically aligned correctly). Btw, did you bump the camera? That's normally how you put this out vertically. Here's a link to a previous discussion about this: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m8-forum/125209-vertical-alignment-how-easy-do-yourself.html#post1324917 also Mr Zhou's tool (he sells the leather cases & straps too): Vertical adjustment tool on ebay - I have the tool myself and it's pretty nicely made with decent knurled machined surface. I wouldn't try this adjustment without the proper tool yourself though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clandrel Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share #5 Posted July 26, 2010 Today I sent my camera to Solms for adjustment. The norwegian dealer couldn't fix it and wanted to send it to Solms. So I sent my lenses too, so they can adjust them to my M9. They told me max 10 days... Does anyone know how much leica charges to adjust lenses? C Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canlogic Posted July 26, 2010 Share #6 Posted July 26, 2010 Hopes Solms is quicker than NJ, mines been in for 4 weeks now for a rangefinder adjustment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clandrel Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted July 26, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I paid for express service... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted July 26, 2010 Share #8 Posted July 26, 2010 Why sent it to Solms for such a minor thing?? Almost ANY camera-repairman (having experience with leicas) will do this for you. Will take him about a minute. And there are A LOT of repairmen out there who used to (or still do) repair leicas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 26, 2010 Share #9 Posted July 26, 2010 An M9 should have a decent turnaround time. In my current experience lens adjustment should be about three weeks, the M9 about a week, provided nothing else is broken . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted July 26, 2010 Share #10 Posted July 26, 2010 Today I sent my camera to Solms for adjustment. The norwegian dealer couldn't fix it and wanted to send it to Solms. So I sent my lenses too, so they can adjust them to my M9. They told me max 10 days... Does anyone know how much leica charges to adjust lenses? C Good choice on getting the lenses checked & adjusted too. I don't know the Leica costs but my independent repair shop (DAG) was very very reasonable and I don't regret the costs for 4 lenses & M9 calibration at all. If they do it right then it'll be worth every penny (or øre ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted July 26, 2010 Share #11 Posted July 26, 2010 Btw, did you bump the camera? That's normally how you put this out vertically. One thing no one ever addresses. How do you know it has only been knocked out vertically? How do you know it hasnt been whacked out diagonally and you are only fixing the vertical component that you can see? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted July 26, 2010 Share #12 Posted July 26, 2010 How do you know it has only been knocked out vertically?[/b] How do you know it hasnt been whacked out diagonally and you are only fixing the vertical component that you can see? By taking a picture? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clandrel Posted July 26, 2010 Author Share #13 Posted July 26, 2010 Well, there are not any Leica repair shops in Norway. So all they couldn't do is send it to Solms. I paid 200 euros to get express service, which means I only have to wait 7-10 days including logistics. The upside is that i know it will be a proper check-up and adjustment. And it's nice to get my lenses "married" to my M9 body... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted July 27, 2010 Share #14 Posted July 27, 2010 Why sent it to Solms for such a minor thing??Almost ANY camera-repairman (having experience with leicas) will do this for you. Will take him about a minute. And there are A LOT of repairmen out there who used to (or still do) repair leicas. Possible warranty invalidation? I had a similar problem at he beginning of the year and when my local Leica repairman tried to adjust the RF, we lost the focus patch completely. So if it went to Solms and was back in Africa within 7 days. You've made the right call sending it to Solms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 27, 2010 Share #15 Posted July 27, 2010 One thing no one ever addresses. How do you know it has only been knocked out vertically? How do you know it hasnt been whacked out diagonally and you are only fixing the vertical component that you can see?Diagonally is slightly impossible. It would need to jump one of the little ball bearings that form the pivot to do that. Not impossible but extremely rare.Of course, the two adjustments are at right angles, so if both were off the resultant vector might be diagonal. Still, even in that case one would first adjust the vertical alignment and then the horizontal alignment aka focussing accuracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted July 27, 2010 Share #16 Posted July 27, 2010 If it shifts in one direction how do you know it hasnt shifted the other. Dont call it diagonal call it in both directions. Exploded views and design details arent exactly in the public domain. Has anyone taken one apart or know what they are talking about? Whats the mechanism of the fixing of the components and how do they shift? Im not talking about adjusting it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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