jaapv Posted June 28, 2010 Share #1 Posted June 28, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just got my M9 back from Solms (two weeks turnaround door to door, including wait for a spare part) The cleaning damage by Dust-Aid meant a new sensor... Thanks to Passport Warranty it did not cost me anything, but I will not be using the system any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RoyP Posted June 28, 2010 Share #2 Posted June 28, 2010 What did it do? or have I missed a post about this. I have thought about this method but just go back to wet cleaning as normal. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted June 28, 2010 I used the stamping tool according to the instructions. It did work reasonably well. However, there are "Sellotape" strips to remove the particles from the cleaning stamp. The adhesive adhered to the cleaning pad and thus got transferred to the sensor. The sensor got scratched by the subsequent extensive wet cleaning to get the gunk off again -that stuff really clung to the sensor! -, probably because the adhesive contained one or two hard particles that had just been lifted off the sensor, but got stuck on again by the rests of the cleaning adhesive. Furthermore I got the impression - but have no proof- that one corner of the IR filter had some movement to the sensor itself by the pull of the pad. I have switched now to the vacuum cleaner by Green Clean and their wet and dry pads and I have the impression that system works as advertised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliveirs Posted June 28, 2010 Share #4 Posted June 28, 2010 (...) I have switched now to the vacuum cleaner by Green Clean and their wet and dry pads and I have the impression that sytem works as advertised. It´s the same system I use, and it has always served me well! Pedro Flickr: Pedro Cardigo's Photostream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted June 28, 2010 Share #5 Posted June 28, 2010 Thanks for sharing this information jaap. Other people should be careful with these stamps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyP Posted June 28, 2010 Share #6 Posted June 28, 2010 Damn, thankgoodnes for passport. Shall take a look at the vacuum system, wet cleaning all the time is a pain. Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted June 28, 2010 Share #7 Posted June 28, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just got my M9 back from Solms (two weeks turnaround door to door, including wait for a spare part) The cleaning damage by Dust-Aid meant a new sensor ... Oops!? Two months ago you posted a story about having contaminated your sensor accidentally with the Dust-Aid cleaning adhesive—but you also said you were able to fix the damage, with a lot of effort and the help of a microscope (among other things). What has happened since then? Is this the aftermath of the same incident? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share #8 Posted June 28, 2010 Yes - it is the aftermath of the same incident - I used the camera, as the small scratches I saw on the sensor (ok-IR filter) did not show up in the images, but I did feel uncomfortable, so when I saw an excuse in a RF adjustment I sent the camera to Solms with the request they look at the sensor as well- which was duly replaced. Interestingly the motherboard was replaced as well - I wonder why. maybe that is just the easiest way of going about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted June 28, 2010 Share #9 Posted June 28, 2010 I have had bad results with the Green Clean system (on a D700). The pads are too wet. Excess liquid tends to dry on the sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share #10 Posted June 28, 2010 That is why you have to use a dry pad as supplied to mop up the puddles. It is the thought behind the system to do it that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted June 28, 2010 Share #11 Posted June 28, 2010 That is why you have to use a dry pad as supplied to mop up the puddles. It is the thought behind the system to do it that way. I did use the dry pad. Some liquid was left behind. May have been my fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted June 28, 2010 Well, we all use the system we are comfortable with. Fortunately, after the first oil spill, wet cleaning is not needed that often Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted June 28, 2010 Share #13 Posted June 28, 2010 Jaap- I'm really sorry to hear about your experience, great that you've got your camera back now. I've tried several methods and products, and the one I keep coming back to is the Visible Dust product: VisibleDust -- DSLR Sensor Cleaning It's the only one that gets rid of dust, oil stains and leaves no slime or residue on the sensor. I guess one must accept that you will never get rid of every speck of dust on the sensor, just as in our film days one invariably ended up with scratches on negatives. We also had no cloning tool in those days. I've just completed a 5 week safari across Africa in some fairly harsh & dusty conditions, 95% of the time the MATE & the WATE stayed on each M9 precisely to avoid changing lenses in these conditions. Both M9s and their respective sensors came through unscathed thankfully! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted June 28, 2010 Share #14 Posted June 28, 2010 I did use the dry pad. Some liquid was left behind. May have been my fault. Maybe less pressure with the wet swab next time? I like these wet/dry cleaners – though I didn't find the aerosol vacuum gadget effective. Fortunately, you can buy the swabs on their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjr Posted June 28, 2010 Share #15 Posted June 28, 2010 Don't clean,don't touch as long as you have no problem...and when you do take to a Leica official place [Mayfair now] pay and let them clean it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 28, 2010 Author Share #16 Posted June 28, 2010 Hmm, that would add a ferry ticet and hotel to the cost. . Seriously, I've been cleaning sensors for over a decade and this was the first disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scola77 Posted June 28, 2010 Share #17 Posted June 28, 2010 Anyone have success with the rocket air blower? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photolandscape Posted June 29, 2010 Share #18 Posted June 29, 2010 Anyone have success with the rocket air blower? The rocket blower for me is the way to go 99% of the time. The only time it won't help is when you have an liquid-based/oil-based spot on the sensor that air won't remove. Machine oil from a lens or shutter mechanism can only be removed with a wet solution, but the key is not oversaturating the pad. If you do, excess fluid can find its way to the very tiny sensor contacts, and you could face a major problem if that were to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted June 29, 2010 Share #19 Posted June 29, 2010 Baah, nasty situation there Jaap. It seems that we must be a bit more carefull with those cleaning solutions. What in your opinion went wrong? Did you contacted Dust aid? Maybe the product is sensitive to humidity and/or temperature? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 29, 2010 Author Share #20 Posted June 29, 2010 No, I did not bother to contact them. I would have if I would have had to pay for the repair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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