andym911 Posted June 19, 2010 Share #1 Posted June 19, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) gents will be going to a small circus this afternoon with my CL and an old Lux with Neopan 400. Basically its a dark environment with spotlights.. Regarding metering-exposure is there anything to do differently than usual ? Any advice-tips are welcome. best andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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topoxforddoc Posted June 19, 2010 Share #2 Posted June 19, 2010 Andy, If I'm at the circus, I normally shoot HP5 rated at 1600 and shoot at 1/60th f2.8 or f4. Exposure latitude on negative film takes care of the rest. Best wishes, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted June 19, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted June 19, 2010 charlie thanks...was also planning to shoot at 1/30th F2 as a basic setting with the film at 400. might manage to post some stuff later... cheers andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted June 19, 2010 Share #4 Posted June 19, 2010 iso 400 will not be enough. You need at least iso 1600 for this so change to Neopan 1600 would be my advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesop Posted June 19, 2010 Share #5 Posted June 19, 2010 Andy, If I'm at the circus, I normally shoot HP5 rated at 1600 and shoot at 1/60th f2.8 or f4. Exposure latitude on negative film takes care of the rest. Best wishes, ...Charlie, how do you soup HP5 rated at 1600? And what sort of results do you get? I have never rated it that high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted June 19, 2010 Share #6 Posted June 19, 2010 It's called push processing. HP5+ in Microphen or DD-X a speed enhancing developer. Or Tri-X (400) in Diafine E.I. 1250 also a perfect combination for these things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted June 19, 2010 Share #7 Posted June 19, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...Charlie, how do you soup HP5 rated at 1600? And what sort of results do you get? I have never rated it that high. HP5+ is amazing at 1600 and even 3200 ISO... Here is a sample @1600 from my blog... DDX, following the Massive Dev Chart... Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesop Posted June 19, 2010 Share #8 Posted June 19, 2010 It's called push processing. HP5+ in Microphen or DD-X a speed enhancing developer. Or Tri-X (400) in Diafine E.I. 1250 also a perfect combination for these things. ...thanks for your prompt response, fotohuis. I am aware of push processing and have done quite a bit of it. Please re-read my question - it relates to the process employed on HP5 at this rating and, more importantly, the specific impact of said process on the resultant negatives. Think density, contrast, dynamic range, tonality, etc. I am not looking for general statements. Again, thanks for your input. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesop Posted June 19, 2010 Share #9 Posted June 19, 2010 HP5+ is amazing at 1600 and even 3200 ISO... Here is a sample @1600 from my blog... DDX, following the Massive Dev Chart... Cheers, ...this is a wonderful example of what I had in mind, Riccis - HP5 seems to retain considerable shadow detail even at -2 stops. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karreaux Posted June 19, 2010 Share #10 Posted June 19, 2010 ...this is a wonderful example of what I had in mind, Riccis - HP5 seems to retain considerable shadow detail even at -2 stops. Thanks. Tri-X @ 1600 isnt bad either. All depends on how good its processed and scanned afterwards... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted June 19, 2010 Share #11 Posted June 19, 2010 Here's HP5 (at 1600) processed in XTOL (1:1 dilution using times published on Kodak's website) taken at a circus (Moscow State Circus & Chinese State Circus) about 3 years ago. Best wishes, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCS Posted June 19, 2010 Share #12 Posted June 19, 2010 Wow, you guys are getting great results. I've always shot/developed at box speed. So for a 'push' newbie... do you pretend the film is an ISO 1600 film and set the camera ISO to 1600 then also use the appropriate dev time for an ISO 1600 speed film? Seeing the results makes me tempted to try this, but I'm not completely clear on how to 'push' Karen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted June 19, 2010 Share #13 Posted June 19, 2010 Wow, you guys are getting great results. I've always shot/developed at box speed. So for a 'push' newbie... do you pretend the film is an ISO 1600 film and set the camera ISO to 1600 then also use the appropriate dev time for an ISO 1600 speed film? Seeing the results makes me tempted to try this, but I'm not completely clear on how to 'push' Karen Karen, Spot on! Just set the film dial to 1600, shoot the film as if it were 1600. Then develop as 1600 with the longer time in developer. To be honest, the lighting will change too quickly in a circus for you to meter as you go. 1/60th at F4 should be just fine (at 1600 ASA). Best wishes, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCS Posted June 19, 2010 Share #14 Posted June 19, 2010 Thanks Charlie! I'll have to try this out. Karen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karreaux Posted June 20, 2010 Share #15 Posted June 20, 2010 Here's HP5 (at 1600) processed in XTOL (1:1 dilution using times published on Kodak's website) taken at a circus (Moscow State Circus & Chinese State Circus) about 3 years ago. Best wishes, Amazing results ! I thought with a spotlight in the dark the contrast will be out of control. But i allmost can't see any burned out places and also in the shadows you still have detail. Very well done.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share #16 Posted June 20, 2010 guy's thanks for the comments...finally I just set the camera to f2.0 or f2.8 and 1/30....focussed in the middle of the activities and left it in these settings for the show. used the 50 Lux and TE 90 and developed as written on the box at 400 ASA. Am very pleased with the results... herse just a sample shot. more scanning tonight:rolleyes: best andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym911 Posted June 20, 2010 Author Share #17 Posted June 20, 2010 slight correction..this was taken with 40 Cron on the CL. Tx Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted June 20, 2010 Share #18 Posted June 20, 2010 Congrats Andy, It worked out well. Regards Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
topoxforddoc Posted June 20, 2010 Share #19 Posted June 20, 2010 Andy, Well done. Nice shots. There's enough latitude in B&W negative film to allow you to get away with a lot of things. Best wishes, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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