wlaidlaw Posted July 30, 2010 Share #201 Posted July 30, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) If I was the marketing director of Adobe, I would seriously consider offering a modest discount on upgrade price to those folks who had downloaded LR2.x via the M9 offer or at least got a serial number. The reasoning behind this would be to keep them in the LR fold. If they have to pay full upgrade price, quite a few of them may well decide that they can manage with LR2 or stick to another RAW handler such as C1 or Aperture etc. On the assumption I would have to pay the upgrade price, sticking to C1 (V5 pro), is certainly crossing my mind. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 30, 2010 Posted July 30, 2010 Hi wlaidlaw, Take a look here The Lightroom 3 thread [including "Does my free SN work with LR3?"] [Merged]. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
andybarton Posted July 30, 2010 Share #202 Posted July 30, 2010 I'm afraid that's the same with many things in life. And, it's one of the benefits of contributing to on-line communities such as this one. While much "news" may actually be only rumour, eventually the truth will out and informed decisions can be made. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 30, 2010 Share #203 Posted July 30, 2010 Wilson The upgrade is only 99 [enter your currency here]. That's certainly a lot less than the cost of Capture One Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 30, 2010 Share #204 Posted July 30, 2010 Andy, I already have Capture 1 V5 Pro, having been a C1 user since Digilux 2 days. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted July 30, 2010 Share #205 Posted July 30, 2010 If I was the marketing director of Adobe, I would seriously consider offering a modest discount on upgrade price to those folks who had downloaded LR2.x via the M9 offer or at least got a serial number. The reasoning behind this would be to keep them in the LR fold. If they have to pay full upgrade price, quite a few of them may well decide that they can manage with LR2 or stick to another RAW handler such as C1 or Aperture etc. On the assumption I would have to pay the upgrade price, sticking to C1 (V5 pro), is certainly crossing my mind. Wilson I would think that the X1 and M9 users who chose to download LR for free are a very, very miniscul portion of adobe's customers (Leica just doesn't sell a lot of cameras compared to a Nikon or Canon plus these users may use other software already). The upgrade is pretty cheap already as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 4, 2010 Share #206 Posted August 4, 2010 Well I'm still being offered LR 2.6.1 by Leica at the owners site. Not at all encouraging! It seems my choice of C1 5Pro was not at all bad as it works fine. I was interested in comparing the two, based on other posters comments, but I don't need download agony, life is too short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 4, 2010 Share #207 Posted August 4, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Erl Have you already registered LR2 through Leica? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 4, 2010 Share #208 Posted August 4, 2010 No. Never used it or downloaded it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mn4367 Posted August 4, 2010 Share #209 Posted August 4, 2010 Registered my camera back in April and entered my TAN yesterday. I was offered the download for LR3 and received the serial number by email. No problems here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted August 4, 2010 Share #210 Posted August 4, 2010 Registered my camera back in April and entered my TAN yesterday. I was offered the download for LR3 and received the serial number by email. No problems here. +1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tay.joe Posted August 4, 2010 Share #211 Posted August 4, 2010 Hi, I just bought a new X1 and tried to access the owners registration page after step 1 i.e putting in my email address, I could not proceed further, the page gave a blank no step 2.. can someone try it. I am from Singapore and I am using firefox.. really strange. Joe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted August 4, 2010 Share #212 Posted August 4, 2010 I took delivery of my M9 only about a month ago, in June, 2010. I downloaded and activated LR 2, being ignorant of the fact that had I waited a few weeks, I could have had LR 3. As it stands now, I can't download LR3. I saw nothing officially from Leica telling me to wait and not to download LR 2. It seems unfair that those who, by chance or rumor, waited a few weeks for LR 3 but bought their camera and registered it at the same time as I, would be offered LR 3 and I would not. The LR3 beta versions were around and discussed long time ago. It was pretty obvious that one day Leica would offer LR3. I had bought LR2 before I got them M9. I could--but don't--complain that it is unfair that the price I paid for the M9 included the price for LR, which I already had and hence did not use. I now paid for the upgrade from LR2 to LR3 and will see my LR3 licence that I got with the M9. On a different note, I question the use of bundling the camera with a non-dedicated software unless the license costs are significantly reduced. There must have been many M9 users who already had LR, not to talk about those who buy more than one camera. OTOH, compared to the cost of the M9, the cost of LR is anyway insignificant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 5, 2010 Share #213 Posted August 5, 2010 ".... OTOH, compared to the cost of the M9, the cost of LR is anyway insignificant. " Statements like this are spurious at best. For many photographers, the cost of the M9 is already a substantial financial stretch. Declaring that if they can afford the M9, then paying for LR is insignificant, is simply a thoughtless expression and far from the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted August 5, 2010 Share #214 Posted August 5, 2010 ".... OTOH, compared to the cost of the M9, the cost of LR is anyway insignificant. " Statements like this are spurious at best. For many photographers, the cost of the M9 is already a substantial financial stretch. Declaring that if they can afford the M9, then paying for LR is insignificant, is simply a thoughtless expression and far from the truth. Erl--Let's not get into a fight here but please do not cite sentences out of context and put words in my mouth that I did not say. Georg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 5, 2010 Share #215 Posted August 5, 2010 Sorry Georg, I am not looking for a fight, but my poor eyes see that you did say the words. Have I missed something? Let me put my view another way. I am one of the photographers who 'overstretched' (my choice) to buy the M9. Theoretically, I am entitled, I believe, to a free copy of LR3 as part of my purchase. At last attempt, I was offered a superseded version (LR2). To acquire LR3 I would need to pony up my dollars. Not sure just how many, but as it stands my budget is otherwise committed. I don't believe I stand alone. I expect you will have a view on this which is fine. I have already put mine and I expect that to be fine as well. There is no need to agree if we choose to differ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted August 5, 2010 Share #216 Posted August 5, 2010 Erl, In your first post you said that "Declaring that if they can afford the M9, then paying for LR is insignificant..". I never said that in my post. So you DID put words in my mouth. Also, my main point was to question the bundling of the M9 and LR. Because such bundling does not mean that LR is for free because Leica has to figure the cost of the LR license into its price for the M9. So you cited my sentence out of context. I also maintain that in comparison to the cost of a M9 (which I believe is some 7,000 USD, the cost of LR is insignificant, in particular if one takes into account the cost of lenses. This is even more the case if one considers that those who got LR2 now don't have to pay the full price but the upgrade price of USD 99. That statement does by no means imply that there are no M9 owners out there for whom the cost of LR makes a difference. I also don't see why anyone is "entitled" to a free copy of LR3. When you bought the M9 you bought it with a free copy of LR as then available. Leica never said they would guarantee upgrades. I already had LR2 and did NOT use my free LR license but speculated that sooner or later I could get LR3 to sell it. Anyway, if you say in this forum that Leica is overcharging, you get slammed by those who think no one should complain about Leica pricing, and if you do it the other way around...well you get the point. Georg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted August 5, 2010 Share #217 Posted August 5, 2010 Georg, I think we are both misreading each others posts, one way or another. In the first instance, I lifted the words of yours I used by copying/pasting direct from your post. I can't see how that is a 'misquote.' In the second instance, I was not disagreeing with the other sections of your post, which is why I did NOT refer to them. All the other words I used were mine as my comment. If I have offended you in any way, that was not my intent and I apologize. We do seem to assess the LR issue differently but that is OK. Probably our 'written words' are also an impediment so let's leave it at that. I will stick with using C1 Pro5 with which I am very happy and probably pass on any copy of LR. It would have been nice to compare them of course, but I am not anxious enough to pay for the privilege. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanyasi Posted August 6, 2010 Share #218 Posted August 6, 2010 I already had LR 2 as a purchase before I bought my Leica. I upgraded to LR3 using the Leica process and my coupon. Since that is a new serial number, I went one step further--I registered it on the Adobe site so that when LR4 comes out, I will be eligible for the upgrade price. As friendly advice, I suggest those who take advantage of the Leica download of LR go one step further and create an online Adobe account with the serial number registered so that new releases can be obtained at the discount rate offered to existing users. Jack Siegel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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