oliveirs Posted May 30, 2010 Share #1 Posted May 30, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello everybody, I´ve been (and still is) a Canon SLR/DSLR for sometime now. In the past month, i've decided to buy a Leica X1, since i wanted a camera with me all the time with best possible IQ, and guess what... I fell in love with Leica. The IQ, the lack of overcomplicated menus, the dials, the design, everything I decided to start saving for an M9 + 50mm (summicron or summilux). Now i´m wondering if i should sell my X1... I feel that when I get my M9, it will became my everyday camera... Pedro Leica X1 - a set on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ianspector Posted May 30, 2010 Share #2 Posted May 30, 2010 I first got interested in Leica through the announcement of the X1 last year. However, through research and reading I ended up buying an M9 last December and an MP this week. They are with me at all times. Whilst picking up my MP I tried out an X1 for the first time and was delighted at its small size and feather light weight. The M9 and more so the MP weigh as much as a solid lump of metal whereas the X1's weight is just absent. The reason I raise this is that if you are used to the size and weight of an X1 do not expect your jackets to come off equally unscathed by an M9. They are heavier, bulkier and then there is the manual focus. I was amazed how much better the X1 was in person than in the reviews and photos. The focus seemed to work faultlessly in my brief time with it. I have not bought an X1 as I bought my M9 to be my everyday carry and it works for me. Loving the X1 is a reasonable response and does not automatically mean that the M9 will be even better for you. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overgaard Posted May 30, 2010 Share #3 Posted May 30, 2010 I think what ever camera works for one, one should keep till it's fully replaced and one don't feel compelled to take a walk with it anymore. To me it sounds like the X1 is a keeper for love and image quality reasons. So i would recommend keeping that, aim for M9 and see after a while how that goes. You might yse both, you might not. In terms of economy the X1 is peanuts compared to an M9 and lens(es). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliveirs Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted May 30, 2010 Ian, Thank you for your answer. Actually i feel pretty confortable with the fact that the M9 will be slightly heavier and bulkier, since i'm always with a backpack or some sort of pack. Actually despite the excelent IQ its somehow the focus control that i´m missing in the X1, anything/anybody moving is very dificult to achieve focus. Thorsten, You are one of the "responsible" for making me wanna buy a M9 Your site is great, and your review on the M9 is inspiring. I guess you are probably right... i should first buy the M9 then see how much i´m using the X1. Thank you again. Pedro Leica X1 - a set on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clandrel Posted May 30, 2010 Share #5 Posted May 30, 2010 If you are looking for a camera to shoot moving objects, you should consider keeping your Canon. The M9 isn't an action camera... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyS Posted May 30, 2010 Share #6 Posted May 30, 2010 That has to be your call and depends on your requirements. For me the X1 is a disappointment. Admittedly I have only played with it twice at the Leica store in London but it is slow both in shutter lag terms and in focusing. The M9 has no shutter lag. You get the picture at the time you press the shutter. If something goes wrong it is down to you. I think that they are totally different experiences. But if I were a betting man I would think the developers of the M9 would be very proud of themselves. The X1 was released too soon. A pity because by all accounts IQ is superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted May 30, 2010 Share #7 Posted May 30, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have both. Keep the X1 as a backup and for times when you absolutely positively must have autofocus. I like both very much. The M9 is my favorite by quite a large margin but the X1 is quite good, more easily carried even if not a pocket camera. It is expensive for such a camera but Leica = expensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliveirs Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share #8 Posted May 30, 2010 If you are looking for a camera to shoot moving objects, you should consider keeping your Canon. The M9 isn't an action camera... Not exactly moving objects... more moving people, i love street, and SLR despite fast is very obtrusive, loud, big, and even the AF is somewhat unreliable, I find my old Canon F1 manual more reliable and also fast. As far as i came to understood, beeing used to manual focus in my F1, with the proper training a rangefinder should not be all that dificult to master. I´ve shot a couple of times with a friend M8 and it feels more natural and reliable that any focus system i've used before. Pedro Flickr: Pedro Cardigo's Photostream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliveirs Posted May 30, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted May 30, 2010 I have both. Keep the X1 as a backup and for times when you absolutely positively must have autofocus. I like both very much. The M9 is my favorite by quite a large margin but the X1 is quite good, more easily carried even if not a pocket camera. It is expensive for such a camera but Leica = expensive. Alan, Great photos, loved the "courtalds", great shot:) Yes, i will keep both for now, the problem isn't the 2 Leicas, but those and the 6 Canon + 1 Sony laying around the house ... I should come up with a good story to tell my wife explaning why a M9 is absolut necessity:p Pedro Flickr: Pedro Cardigo's Photostream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted May 31, 2010 Share #10 Posted May 31, 2010 If you are looking for a camera to shoot moving objects, you should consider keeping your Canon. The M9 isn't an action camera... Well, I won't comment on the Canon because I am not really qualified too (don't have one) but the M9 is very definitely an action camera if it is anything at all. That I am qualified to say. My livelihood depends on it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted May 31, 2010 Share #11 Posted May 31, 2010 I *personally* think the X1 complements the M9, and the M9 is not a replacement for X1 or the other way around... So if possible, you can just save for the M9 without selling the X1... I know it sounds very expensive this way, but you'll get the pleasure of having both with you and you can switch back and forth or bring both at once. If you're really serious into your Leica system, you can consider selling a few of your Canon lenses instead, if possible.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 31, 2010 Share #12 Posted May 31, 2010 Alternatively, you could ease your way in (price-wise) with a clean used M8 or M8.2. The handling and IQ will be similar and you likely won't lose much if you sell it, either because you don't get along with it or because you decide to move to an M9 at some point. The savings might well allow you to keep the X1. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted May 31, 2010 Share #13 Posted May 31, 2010 I would also agree with Jeff's opinion, I also moved my way up from an M8... just so I can be sure of the M system before moving / investing in something expensive... I started out with an M8 and a second hand 35 summicron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryk34 Posted May 31, 2010 Share #14 Posted May 31, 2010 Well, in the first place, there are no M9s to buy. In the second place, if you find one to buy you should give it to me since I've been on a wait list since last November. Third, simply keep your X1 until you actually have a M9 to buy, then consider selling it. However, if you cannot sell it for much by then, why not keep it as a backup for your M9? That should be around this time in 2011. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted May 31, 2010 Share #15 Posted May 31, 2010 Depends if you can live with just one lens, the 35. And if you mind AF versus RF focusing. I am actually far more used to RF and find it more accurate and precise. Have you tried using a rangefinder? Definitely try before you buy. I think the M9 is a lot more flexible, but the price, not just image quality, is jaw dropping. And judging from posts here, it still has issues -- just about all of them related to software, not mechanical build quality. Another question is how much devaluation can you afford? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 31, 2010 Share #16 Posted May 31, 2010 If you are looking for a camera to shoot moving objects, you should consider keeping your Canon. The M9 isn't an action camera... :confused: Quite a number of users here have posted extreme action shots, flying birds, etc. The lack of shutter lag makes it a great camera for moving subjects. And manual focussing? I think there was quite a bit of shooting of moving objects going on before it was even invented - that is just a skill to be aquired. To the OP: I would hang on to the X1. A very small camera alwys comes in handy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliveirs Posted May 31, 2010 Author Share #17 Posted May 31, 2010 Thank You for all the answers. I live in Portugal, and i spoke with some Leica representatives and the M9 will not be all that hard to come by... I could have bought one last week if i had the money I´ve decided to keep the X1 (for now)... maybe what you guys are saying about the X1 could complement the M9 is right... To start, I will probably go with the M9+used 50mm cron, even if i discover that the M system is not for me (doubt that!), it shouldn't be difficult to sell the M9 (with minimal money loss). Larry, you should try to find the M9 in Europe (i´m assuming you live in the US), it´s easier, and cheaper (with euro-dollar devaluation). Thanks again Pedro Flickr: Pedro Cardigo's Photostream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted May 31, 2010 Share #18 Posted May 31, 2010 Get the M9 with a 50mm and 28 or 24mm lens on the wider end. Use the X1 as M9 backup and to cover the 35mm equiv. focal length, instead of buying a 35mm lens for the M9. It works for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted May 31, 2010 Share #19 Posted May 31, 2010 Pedro, My suggestion (although a bit provocative for the others) would be to follow your first scenario and sell the X1 and get a good price for it and refund your new M9. The reason for this is, that the X1 is competitive to the M9 not supplementary (in my own opinion of course). If you take away the fact that one is smaller and lighter and cheaper, then the only difference is the AF. But as you say -and you are right- you will feel right at home with Leica's RF. Now with the cash you get from the X1 (peanuts yes) I would target the M9 and a brand new 35mm sumilux (the new one). It is a lens with some great view angle and super fast. It is the same as having the X1, but with added the option to go higher from that 35mm lens in the future. Having an M9 with that lens and an X1, the difference then besides IQ is in the feeling. That is why I say the two cameras compete each other out, even if the most fundamental difference is the focusing. And costs of course: +6000E for an M9 with the new 35lux Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted May 31, 2010 Share #20 Posted May 31, 2010 Hello everybody, I´ve been (and still is) a Canon SLR/DSLR for sometime now. In the past month, i've decided to buy a Leica X1, since i wanted a camera with me all the time with best possible IQ, and guess what... I fell in love with Leica. The IQ, the lack of overcomplicated menus, the dials, the design, everything I decided to start saving for an M9 + 50mm (summicron or summilux). Now i´m wondering if i should sell my X1... I feel that when I get my M9, it will became my everyday camera... Pedro Leica X1 - a set on Flickr Pedro, don't rush to sell your X1. The joy it gives you today will continue into the future. Instead, save to buy an M9 (or M8) and choose a lens to complement that fitted permanently to the X1. Then you will have a two camera kit for serious travel photography and still have the even more compact X1 when you need a camera on non-photographic outings, like shopping etc. That is how I work, twinning the X1 to my X1; a nicely balanced and compact kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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