stunsworth Posted May 14, 2010 Share #301 Posted May 14, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... its up to your eye, not your computer, to see them! Which is precisely what I am saying. If you _see_ the subject as not being in a strict 3x2 ratio why force yourself into using that format? If you do force yourself to use the 3x2 format - even though it may not be suitable - the photograph to being dictated by the camera you happen to be using rather than the composition itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 14, 2010 Posted May 14, 2010 Hi stunsworth, Take a look here To crop or not to crop...... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
NB23 Posted May 14, 2010 Share #302 Posted May 14, 2010 Clearly your vision is constrained. You let your tool dictate your output. You have my sympathy. Regards, Bill According to your wise comment, I see you are the kind to fix a car with a hammer: without constrains. You have my sympathy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted May 14, 2010 Share #303 Posted May 14, 2010 Which is precisely what I am saying. If you _see_ the subject as not being in a strict 3x2 ratio why force yourself into using that format? If you do force yourself to use the 3x2 format - even though it may not be suitable - the photograph to being dictated by the camera you happen to be using rather than the composition itself. At the moment of taking the photograph the format is dictated by the camera used. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted May 14, 2010 Share #304 Posted May 14, 2010 At the moment of taking the photograph the format is dictated by the camera used. Unless of course you already know that you are going to crop the photograph to get the composition you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 14, 2010 Share #305 Posted May 14, 2010 Your vision should match your tool I'll readily concede that there might be artists who measure the value of their work by extrinsic qualities. Subordinating the vision to the arbitrary formats their apparatus is capable of producing is obviously the example under discussion in this thread. To some, this is akin to writing a novel without the fiifth letter of the alphabet. But then, it would be a rather poor world where all artists were alike in that respect. Famous painters have been known to erase or overpaint parts of their paintings. Why should artists who post process their works be lesser artists than those who don't? Is an artist whose work requires fewer steps for its completion the lesser or the greater artist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 14, 2010 Share #306 Posted May 14, 2010 At the moment of taking the photograph the format is dictated by the camera used. Unless of course you already know that you are going to crop the photograph to get the composition you want. We've been here before... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 14, 2010 Share #307 Posted May 14, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) According to your wise comment, I see you are the kind to fix a car with a hammer: without constrains. Surprised you are still posting to this thread, Ned, given that your stance on the matter was roundly discredited some pages ago by Azzo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 14, 2010 Share #308 Posted May 14, 2010 According to your wise comment, I see you are the kind to fix a car with a hammer: without constrains. What would you have him do when the object was to fix a car? Change the problem in order to suit the only tool you're willing to wield? Seems increasingly like little-enders vs. big-enders here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted May 14, 2010 Share #309 Posted May 14, 2010 Surprised you are still posting to this thread, Ned, given that your stance on the matter was roundly discredited some pages ago by Azzo. Discredited? By who? Oh yes, the cropped image that I posted, the one at the end of a roll of film that was exposed In half? The one that represents 0.01% of my work? You're talking about that funny "discreditation"? I am sorry but what azzo has to say or to show is of very little value to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 14, 2010 Share #310 Posted May 14, 2010 Excuses, excuses... Never mind, eh? Now, where were we? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 14, 2010 Share #311 Posted May 14, 2010 What would you have him do when the object was to fix a car? Change the problem in order to suit the only tool you're willing to wield? Seems increasingly like little-enders vs. big-enders here. Philipp, thank you. I now have an image of Ned wandering endlessly with a screwdriver looking for something to screw up... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted May 14, 2010 Share #312 Posted May 14, 2010 Abraham Kaplan's, in 1964:[2] "I call it the law of the instrument, and it may be formulated as follows: Give a small boy a hammer, and he will find that everything he encounters needs pounding." Also see: Maslow, hammer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted May 14, 2010 Share #313 Posted May 14, 2010 Excuses, excuses... Never mind, eh? Now, where were we? You and azzo know more about me and my work then my own self. Or so you believe. And all your arguments supporting what you "know", about me, and serving it against me, besides being particularly pathetic, is , I have to admit, entertaining. Where we're you, you ask? On that little soap box, right over there, on that little hill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted May 14, 2010 Share #314 Posted May 14, 2010 " I am sorry but what azzo has to say or to show is of very little value to me. " @ NB32 - The very least you can do is to crop it right or do nothing !!! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! . . . cheers Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! . . . cheers ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119320-to-crop-or-not-to-crop/?do=findComment&comment=1324008'>More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 14, 2010 Share #315 Posted May 14, 2010 Is this pissing up a wall contest not finished yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted May 14, 2010 Share #316 Posted May 14, 2010 Discredited? By who? I am sorry but what azzo has to say or to show is of very little value to me. @ NB32 - On the contrary to you, what you say is of great importance to me, especially when you 'pounce' on other members ! @ NB32 - On the contrary to you, I value the members here ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 14, 2010 Share #317 Posted May 14, 2010 That's "23", Ivan. Don't inflate him any more than he does already Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 14, 2010 Share #318 Posted May 14, 2010 OK guys. That's enough now. Please continue this off forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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