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OfF my head you can check Steve Huff Photos - Real World Digital Camera And Lens Reviews and check out his m9 review, he did a wedding there.

 

No wedding pics in that review.

 

My impression from all the M9 images I have seen is that it produces great results from low contrast subjects but is not so clever on anything with average to high contrast.

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I have a little bit about it here in the bottom part of the site:

 

leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Leica M9 Digital Rangefinder Camera - Page 2: Tool of the artist, Leica M9 as reportage camera, wedding phtography - plus Leica DMR and Leica M9 comparison - plus proper skintones with Leica M9

 

It's silent, compact and does great quality. If you shoot a lot of wedding I would consider two which I would for wedding in any case so as to be sure to get the shots. But in this case also to be able to work more lenses and have sufficient buffer. A few places during a wedding you need to shoot a lot to be sure to get the right shot and after 7-8 shots in a row with the Leica M9 the camera needs some seconds to clear the buffer.

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Are you a wedding photographer generally speaking? If yes, then consider the M9 as a tool, as is every other camera. Now you need to assess the tool's suitability to your work style. The fact that I can use an M9 for weddings does not mean you can. Learning to use your tools is just as important as learning to shoot weddings, or anything, as I presume you know.

 

Are you familiar with shooting RF at all? If so, the M9 will come to you easily. Also, assuming 'yes' you will have a good idea if RF will suit your wedding technique. If 'no', don't try it at a wedding until you are very conversant with the technique.

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Are you a wedding photographer generally speaking? If yes, then consider the M9 as a tool, as is every other camera. Now you need to assess the tool's suitability to your work style. The fact that I can use an M9 for weddings does not mean you can. Learning to use your tools is just as important as learning to shoot weddings, or anything, as I presume you know.

 

Are you familiar with shooting RF at all? If so, the M9 will come to you easily. Also, assuming 'yes' you will have a good idea if RF will suit your wedding technique. If 'no', don't try it at a wedding until you are very conversant with the technique.

 

Yes, yes, yes, but have you actually got any M9 wedding images which I can look at?

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I have a little bit about it here in the bottom part of the site:

 

leica.overgaard.dk - Thorsten Overgaard's Leica Pages - Leica M9 Digital Rangefinder Camera - Page 2: Tool of the artist, Leica M9 as reportage camera, wedding phtography - plus Leica DMR and Leica M9 comparison - plus proper skintones with Leica M9

 

It's silent, compact and does great quality. If you shoot a lot of wedding I would consider two which I would for wedding in any case so as to be sure to get the shots. But in this case also to be able to work more lenses and have sufficient buffer. A few places during a wedding you need to shoot a lot to be sure to get the right shot and after 7-8 shots in a row with the Leica M9 the camera needs some seconds to clear the buffer.

 

Thanks that's helpful.

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Leica M9 - Beispielbilder - DSLR-Forum

 

The first of Rocco's M9 wedding shots were posted on September 20, 2009. In order to see the images you have to register (in German). Although by now this guy removed some of his M9 images and HD video clips, there are still quite a few M9 (including wedding) shots on this thread that extends over 209 web pages as of today. I have only looked at a handful of them.

 

His motto is: "Fotografieren ist wie Motorradfahren - da gibt es keine Regeln!" or in English: "Photography is like motorbike riding - there are no rules!"

 

In order to get his M9 that early, he called all over Europe, finally located one in Vienna, and drove there from the Stuttgart area where he lives to pick it up.

 

Be warned: This appears to be a pretty wild thread - some of the images on later pages might be considered offensive and I lost interest in watching them pretty quickly. Nevertheless, the wedding shots and HD video clips give an impression how this person views himself as a wedding photographer.

 

I only got recently seriously interested in photography as a hobby and am curious how Pros would characterize the wedding photography style in the link above.

 

K-H.

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Hopefully it's insane in a good way... Hahaha....

 

Cheers,

 

Ouch, didn't knew you're on this forum :o

 

Yes, i mean in a good way. As student photography, technicaly i could learn a lot from you...

 

Keep on going that way, i like your style.

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I've had a look at most of those links and there is some nice work there. But I'm seeing a lot of images where the dynamic range is too much for the camera. Sometimes the shadows are completely blocked up which means there is zero detail in the grooms suit or the highlights are blown in the brides dress or both. Again it seems from what I'm seeing that the M9 has a really short useable dynamic range. But I have read it has 11.7 stops but the images I'm seeing don't back that up. Some of them don't look as though they are in high contrast lighting and they are still blocked up.

So what's going on? Is it just the style of the photographers doing this as a post process or is the camera simply not capable. I've given the photographers the benefit of any doubt and assumed they have not screwed up when post processing.

My guess is that the camera is only good for around 5 stops range just like slide film and therefore needs precision metering to get it right when the lighting is right.

AM I way off the mark here?

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I'{snipped} {snipped}. Again it seems from what I'm seeing that the M9 has a really short useable dynamic range. But I have read it has 11.7 stops but the images I'm seeing don't back that up. Some of them don't look as though they are in high contrast lighting and they are still blocked up.

So what's going on? Is it just the style of the photographers doing this as a post process or is the camera simply not capable. I've given the photographers the benefit of any doubt and assumed they have not screwed up when post processing.

My guess is that the camera is only good for around 5 stops range just like slide film and therefore needs precision metering to get it right when the lighting is right.

AM I way off the mark here?

 

Ahhh--finally your previous post makes sense :)

 

What you're looking at in a lot of situations is simply the screen preparation of the file; there's also a lot of styles of photography out there right now that cripple the file to make up for printing and display issues :) The overuse of a high-pass filter comes directly to mind.

 

The M9 has almost 13 stops at low ISOs with the right RAW processor and about 8, evidently, at 2500. Since I'd normally only use ISO 2500 in high contrast situations, the shadows are going to be buried anyway (it's the same for my D3 above ISO 3000).

 

There's also the roving blackpoint that Leica has programmed into their DNG right now, and it's clipping black levels in favour of noise. If you shoot uncompressed in edge situations, you'll get more noise but also more detail, evidently.

 

The CCD is inherently higher contrast, too, than a lot of CMOS setups; that's just a post-issue for me. Yes, with all digicams you have to hold the highlights, just like slides, but there's loads of shadow detail in the RAWs.

 

But in short, I have no problem with most wedding situations and an M8, so I don't expect problems with the M9, where there's a couple of levels more to work with...

 

And I can't speak for anyone else, but most of my workflow is compressing EV levels anyway so they fit into a print or display space. A lot of wedding photography I see these days takes shortcuts (you almost have to) but that's not indicative of the camera.

 

(Finally, can't speak for "what you see" on your monitor, etc.... so you really need to see prints IMO. They're fabulous, and not hampered at all)

 

FWIW, I also have a lot of digital M shots on my site and blog, which is in the middle of being replaced with a new design, and they're mixed with Canon and DMR and Nikon shots...)

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