EricC Posted April 17, 2010 Share #81 Posted April 17, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Many thanks for your kind offer (I had a previous, earlier one too). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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M9n Posted April 17, 2010 Author Share #82 Posted April 17, 2010 Hi Eric, Thanks for posting. Hope you too are still enjoying and getting good use from your 'Lux. We'll have that coffee & chin-wag yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricC Posted April 17, 2010 Share #83 Posted April 17, 2010 Hi Eric, Thanks for posting. Hope you too are still enjoying and getting good use from your 'Lux. We'll have that coffee & chin-wag yet! Hi Vincent, Glad to read that you are pleased with your new lens, they are amazingly sharp and beautifully crafted. Yes, we'll have to sort something out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted May 24, 2010 Share #84 Posted May 24, 2010 Hi again Peter Living with the silver 'Lux these last few weeks has not brought on a single moment of "wish I'd waited for a black one" thoughts at all. In fact it feels quite normal (great, even) on the black body, probably because it's hardly been taken off it - will it be a case of 'silver withdrawal' when I get back to using my other lenses, I wonder! Wilfredo - get to try one if you can. It is an incredible lens and I would be most surprised that having tried it you wouldn't want one! I haven't had a chance to use one but I have made a deposit to purchase one, and I do prefer the silver version to use on my silver M8. I've seen enough photo's with this lens to convince me. I'm wondering how many others are also waiting? It doesn't seem to available anywhere except on Amazon at an inflated price. The used one's I've seen are still pretty pricey hence I'd rather buy new and have the assurance of a Leica warranty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmobile Posted May 25, 2010 Share #85 Posted May 25, 2010 If you have a lot to carry, the brass lenses add up. I found that the heavy brass (BP LHSA in my case) lux apsh screwed up the handling of my MP making it too nose heavy. Whenever I removed it and put on the planar, or 35 biogon or anything else it felt so much better. While I could accept the weight and nose heaviness of a 90mm lens, I could not for a standard 50mm. If I ever get a lux asph again, it will be black chrome - no question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted May 25, 2010 Share #86 Posted May 25, 2010 Answering a few of your questions... Yes the weight does get on you if you compare it to the black version. It is however, more solid and gives a better balance while holding the camera (With my M9). However, sometimes I wish I had the black version instead, since it would go easier on my neck on long periods of travel. But I still love the grey/silver colour hahaha... Maybe I'll get a 50 Cron ASPH one day if I prefer light travelling... About focus shift issues... the newest and latest 6-bit 50mm Lux ASPH has none, it incorporates a floating element that eliminates the issue. The 35 Lux ASPH doesn't have a floating element, but the recently released one does... But I never had problems either with my Lux ASPH 35 before.. but I find I hardly use it compared to my 50 Lux, so I sold it away sometime ago... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tategoi Posted May 25, 2010 Share #87 Posted May 25, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Answering a few of your questions... Yes the weight does get on you if you compare it to the black version. It is however, more solid and gives a better balance while holding the camera (With my M9). However, sometimes I wish I had the black version instead, since it would go easier on my neck on long periods of travel. But I still love the grey/silver colour hahaha... Maybe I'll get a 50 Cron ASPH one day if I prefer light travelling... About focus shift issues... the newest and latest 6-bit 50mm Lux ASPH has none, it incorporates a floating element that eliminates the issue. The 35 Lux ASPH doesn't have a floating element, but the recently released one does... But I never had problems either with my Lux ASPH 35 before.. but I find I hardly use it compared to my 50 Lux, so I sold it away sometime ago... I did just that, bought the lighter 50 'Cron ASPH in black. Some say the best ever 50 made by Leica. Unfortunately the 'Cron has a slight front focus, only evidence when taking chart 1 metre away. In normal photo-taking no trace of focus shift. My copy of 50 'Lux ASPH in chrome had perfect focus. The short supply of the 'Lux had been driving up sales in the 'Cron. I guess many can't wait and decided to buy a "Cron as a stop-gap measure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 25, 2010 Share #88 Posted May 25, 2010 I did just that, bought the lighter 50 'Cron ASPH in black. Some say the best ever 50 made by Leica. Unfortunately the 'Cron has a slight front focus, only evidence when taking chart 1 metre away. In normal photo-taking no trace of focus shift. My copy of 50 'Lux ASPH in chrome had perfect focus. The short supply of the 'Lux had been driving up sales in the 'Cron. I guess many can't wait and decided to buy a "Cron as a stop-gap measure. I bought 2 current model 50 Summicrons one after the other in anticipation of my M9. Neither was any good, so I thought the Leica gods might be telling me something and bought a chrome Zeiss ZM 50 Planar instead. It is very good with the silky smooth focusing that is the characteristic of the modern ZM lenses. It is quite a bit bigger than the 50 Summicron though. I now wish I had kept the chrome 50 ASPH Summilux I had. I did not like it on my M8 and very rarely used it. I therefore part exchanged it for a MATE Mk2. I don't regret getting the MATE for a second but I did not really need to accept £1,200 for the Lux. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
batmobile Posted May 25, 2010 Share #89 Posted May 25, 2010 Sounds like you had bad luck with the summicrons! The planar and 50 cron are very similar in size without hoods. There cant be more than a few mm in it and I would not be able to say which way. I bought 2 current model 50 Summicrons one after the other in anticipation of my M9. Neither was any good, so I thought the Leica gods might be telling me something and bought a chrome Zeiss ZM 50 Planar instead. It is very good with the silky smooth focusing that is the characteristic of the modern ZM lenses. It is quite a bit bigger than the 50 Summicron though. I now wish I had kept the chrome 50 ASPH Summilux I had. I did not like it on my M8 and very rarely used it. I therefore part exchanged it for a MATE Mk2. I don't regret getting the MATE for a second but I did not really need to accept £1,200 for the Lux. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likalar Posted May 25, 2010 Share #90 Posted May 25, 2010 Daniel, great looking camera. I'm curious about the raised and extra hot shoes or whatever those are up top. Thanks! Larry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knruff Posted May 25, 2010 Share #91 Posted May 25, 2010 I have a chrome 50mm Summicron on a black M9 and I lost the stealth effect completly and I don't like the look at all (imho). If I get the chance I will get the black version, but - the 50 Cron is - I think the only Leica-M without ASPH. So Stefan Daniel tell Steve Huff something about a new M-Lens coming this year. Perhaps it was the new Lux 35mm but perhaps there will be a a 50 Cron ASPH soon - if so I should wait - or change to the 50 Lux - but I was told the Cron is the sharpest Lens on the planet not the Lux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrice Posted May 26, 2010 Share #92 Posted May 26, 2010 Daniel, great looking camera. I'm curious about the raised and extra hot shoes or whatever those are up top. Thanks! Larry Hi Larry, I can only assume you're addressing me It's a thumbs up CSEP-4 which I bought from Tony Rose @ Popflash. My only qualm is that both shoes are cold shoes. I have toyed with the idea of making the off-centre shoe "hot" as the centre one has the allen-key socket right where the main flash pin goes and I don't want to lose that socket. I've since painted the red dot on my camera black, and I must say it sets off the looks even more... The M9 will have to do a new self-portrait soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tategoi Posted May 26, 2010 Share #93 Posted May 26, 2010 I have a chrome 50mm Summicron on a black M9 and I lost the stealth effect completly and I don't like the look at all (imho).If I get the chance I will get the black version, but - the 50 Cron is - I think the only Leica-M without ASPH. So Stefan Daniel tell Steve Huff something about a new M-Lens coming this year. Perhaps it was the new Lux 35mm but perhaps there will be a a 50 Cron ASPH soon - if so I should wait - or change to the 50 Lux - but I was told the Cron is the sharpest Lens on the planet not the Lux. You are right, 50 Cron does not come with ASPH. I was trying to say my Cron is the current model I wish I have your chrome 50, but unfortunately Leica no longer produce it and existing stocks were all sold in my area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade Posted May 27, 2010 Share #94 Posted May 27, 2010 wlaidlaw - I guess you're getting bad copies (which is very unusual)... But anyhow, the Zeiss and Leica has different look to their lenses. MAYBE - you're just not liking the Leica lens characteristics more than the Zeiss... But I'm just second guessing, so I wouldn't say too much about it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted May 27, 2010 Share #95 Posted May 27, 2010 I bought 2 current model 50 Summicrons one after the other in anticipation of my M9. Neither was any good, so I thought the Leica gods might be telling me something and bought a chrome Zeiss ZM 50 Planar instead. It is very good with the silky smooth focusing that is the characteristic of the modern ZM lenses. It is quite a bit bigger than the 50 Summicron though. I now wish I had kept the chrome 50 ASPH Summilux I had. I did not like it on my M8 and very rarely used it. I therefore part exchanged it for a MATE Mk2. I don't regret getting the MATE for a second but I did not really need to accept £1,200 for the Lux. Wilson I'm waiting for a 50mm Summilux ASPH and have toyed with the idea of the Zeiss 50mm f/2 but your comments convince me that I should wait and be patient. I tried the latest version 50mm Summicron the other day and found it boring in terms of wide open performance. I'm a fan of Zeiss glass but some of the images I've seen with the 50mm Summilux ASPH have literally taken my breath away. That lens seems to live up to Leica legend status. Why didn't you like the Summilux ASPH on the M8? I plan to use it on the M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 27, 2010 Share #96 Posted May 27, 2010 wlaidlaw - I guess you're getting bad copies (which is very unusual)... But anyhow, the Zeiss and Leica has different look to their lenses. MAYBE - you're just not liking the Leica lens characteristics more than the Zeiss... But I'm just second guessing, so I wouldn't say too much about it... Shade, The first Summicron had a horrible "graunch" in the middle of the focusing. The dealer admitted he had bought it with a bunch of other lenses and had not tried it. He just took it back straight away. As my friends at Collectible in Phoenix, AZ had another one at a very attractive price, which had the benefit of coding as well, I did not consider getting it serviced/cured. As I always do with any S/H Leica lens I buy, I did a focus check on the second 50 Summicron. It was weird. It was in focus at scale infinity, albeit with a small error in the position of the RF cam (adjustable on Leica lenses, unlike most of the Voigtlanders). However as you focused closer, the lens became progressively more out of focus, both scale and RF. This should just not be possible with a simple focusing lens like the 50 Summicron, where there are no internal moving elements but the whole optical cell is moved as a single body. I took it to my friend Kelvin at Protech and we but it on his optical bench with a collimator to check my findings. Same result. We phoned Malcolm Taylor, possibly the top Leica lens expert in the UK. His recommendation was to get rid of it. Collectible took it back with no quibbles. I spotted a mint S/H 50 ZM Planar at Ffordes. Now I don't like the way this Planar draws as much as I like a 50 Summicron. It is, like nearly all the ZM lenses, very high contrast. It is not a good people lens but very good for landscapes and technical and at least, the focus is spot on. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 27, 2010 Share #97 Posted May 27, 2010 Why didn't you like the Summilux ASPH on the M8? I plan to use it on the M8. Wilfreo, I felt that it gave results, which had the appearance of being over-sharpened. When used wide open, it seems to have a very abrupt drop off from a very sharp in-focus zone into the OOF, where I was not a fan of its bokeh. It gave a similar look to the 35mm Zeiss Planar G, which I did not like either. It was a personal thing and you could not argue with the crispness, contrast, flare resistance or absence of aperture shift. I just ended up using it very little and it was therefore, quite an expensive asset to use as a paperweight. If I had known the M9 was coming along as soon as it did, I would have hung onto it. Also on the M8, I feel that 67MM EFOV is a funny lens length, being neither fish nor fowl. I use the MATE V2, which I exchanged the 50 Lux for, far more than I ever did the Lux. The MATE is a good lens on the M8 but wonderful on the M9. If I was Leica, this would be my very top priority to replace with a V3. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
daive Posted November 3, 2011 Share #98 Posted November 3, 2011 Sorry for digging up this topic, but could somebody provide me the white focusing sheet resp. PDF, posted here before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 3, 2011 Share #99 Posted November 3, 2011 Sorry for digging up this topic, but could somebody provide me the white focusing sheet resp. PDF, posted here before? I think this may the one you mean Nikon D70 Focus Chart Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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