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Hello to All ...

I have been using M8 for the past couple of years, and now an M9. In using both cameras, I find myself making menu choices and then not really changing much very often after that - I guess I am sort of using it like a film camera.

 

Point is, I am not really taking advantage of the USER PROFILES and would love to find out what some of you have set up your four user profiles to do.

 

Here is what I have at the moment in my M9 :

(1) Uncompressed DNG/ Fixed ISO 160

(2) Uncompressed DNG/ Auto ISO 160-800

(3) Compressed DNG/ Fixed ISO 160

(4) JPEG 18MP/ Fixed ISO 160

 

Thanks in advance for your responses!

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None of my lenses are coded so I have all four profiles set the same except for the choice of lens. All are at uncompressed DNG only, auto WB, 160 ISO. Then each is set for a different lens chosen with manual setting: 28, 35, 50, and 90. That way when I change lenses, I just have to change the profile, which I can do quickly with the Set button, instead of going to the Menu and sub menus.

 

Note that this arrangement works for me because I never use anything except 160 ISO (I make very large—27"x40"— prints and the quality is best at 160) and only use manual exposure settings. If you change ISO or use EV +/-, your user profile is no longer selected. So this may not be the right solution for everybody, but it works very well for me.

 

Of course, you have to remember to select a different profile every time you change lenses, but I've never found that to be a problem.

 

Andrew Borowiec

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Andrew, if you have selected a profile, and then change one parameter, e.g. ISO or whatever -- then it is true that the menu does not indicate this profile anymore, just --- , BUT the profile is still completely in force EXCEPT for that single parameter you have changed. You can easily check this. Select the profile for one of your lenses, change ISO or WB ... and the same lens is still selected, and taking a picture and checking the data will immediately confirm this. I am forever changing ISO values and sometimes other parameters within my profiles, with no untoward consequences to parameters I have left unchanged.

 

The old man from the Age of the Red Film Window

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I use the profiles to establish base line settings for different light levels. I have profiles for bright, normal, dark, and very dark surroundings -- with the latter one for low light/stealth situations like dimly lit performances. They differ in terms of auto ISO settings, display brightness, whether or not to auto review, shutter release (soft vs. soft/quiet) -- so things that are not quickly accessible.

 

As already mentioned, I regard these as base lines that I can quickly set and then adjust to the situation at hand by e.g. switching between auto and a fixed ISO.

 

For me it would be great if the selected profile would still be shown albeit with an indication that some settings have been modified (e.g. displayed name switches from "normal" to "normal+". With that I could immediately see what basic settings are in effect. Applying the same profile again would then clear the overrides. I guess that this would also work for Andrew's workflow.

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I use the profiles to establish base line settings for different light levels. I have profiles for bright, normal, dark, and very dark surroundings -- with the latter one for low light/stealth situations like dimly lit performances. They differ in terms of auto ISO settings, display brightness, whether or not to auto review, shutter release (soft vs. soft/quiet) -- so things that are not quickly accessible

 

Roey,

 

Thanks for the response. I now realize that I am "wasting" a profile on some items that are as easily adjusted as changing profiles.

 

I like the approach you have described. Thanks again!

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Profile 1 - Standard - ISO 160- uncompressed DNG, LCD medium high

Profile 2 Eco-light ISO 1000 - custom whitebalance - uncompressed DNG, LCD medium-low

Profile 3 Indoor ISO 800, EV comp + 2/3 - LCD medium low, uncompressed DNG

Profile 4 B&W ISO 1250 , Uncompressed DNG + JPG fine, saturation B&W

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Profil 1: "at work":manual white balance, Auto ISO up to 640

Profil 2: "HDR": ISO 160, 5 exposures/1,5f, White balance daylight,

Profil 3: "Pano": ISO 160, Auto white balance(!), Selftimer 2sec,

Profil 4: "Report": AutoISO up to 640, Auto white balance; soft shutter

 

allways: uncompressed DNG, Autoreview to relase button pressed,

 

Best

 

NH

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  • 2 weeks later...

Set the camera to your taste, go to menu and select: save user profile,select the number of the profile you wish to change. Press set Change the name to suit (M9 only ) and press set.

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I was curious to see the responses that specified 'uncompressed DNG.' Is there really an obvious difference between compressed and uncompressed? I admit that I set mine to compressed assuming I wasn't negatively impacting anything.

 

Karen

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I was curious to see the responses that specified 'uncompressed DNG.' Is there really an obvious difference between compressed and uncompressed? I admit that I set mine to compressed assuming I wasn't negatively impacting anything.

 

Karen

 

Karen,

 

My understanding is that the M9 in-camera compression is lossy.

In contrast, compression done in LR2 is lossless.

Interesting discussion here: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/120983-m9-compressed-dngs-blackpoint-noise-levels.html

 

K-H.

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Karen--

M9 adjusts blackpoint differently from M8. At lowest ISO, uncompressed is better. Difference between compressed and uncompressed is less as you increase ISO.

 

See the (brief) thread at http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/120983-m9-compressed-dngs-blackpoint-noise-levels.html.

 

Keep in mind that most of the folks in that thread are artistic, demanding and knowledgeable. For most of us, the difference would likely be negligible.

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