35mm f3.5 Summaron values

[Guest JoanMarianne]

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I note that a 1952-made 35mm f3.5 Summaron (presumably the first, E36, version) has sold for over £400 Sterling on an Internet auction site. Is this an indication of the performance of this particular lens - or of its rarity? I have just had a 1953 example of the same type serviced and the results, with black-and-white film, are impressive and distinctive in a way which does not feature in more modern lenses where sharpness and contrast seem to be the only criteria. (I paid less than £400 for my lens plus a IIIf Black-Dial body!)

[luigi bertolotti]

£ 400 seems to me a lot of money for the A36 Summaron... it's indeed very common, even if the Summaron 35 F3,5, in itself has an interesting history (see another thread here...) : I would be curios to see the item sold for that amount... can you give details on the auction site ? Maybe it has something uncommon... or it is in superb conditions and with lot of add-ons appreciated by collectors (box-case-sales documents- hood-finder-caps...)

[Guest JoanMarianne]

It was on Ebay, described as mint and with the original Leitz 2-piece "keeper" box.

[earleygallery]

I think I found the lens referred to. It's the later type but a screw fit lens which would orginally have had a bayonet mount attached and screwed on.

 

The price is high (about twice as high!) for the type of lens but obviously the mount detail was of sufficient interest to a couple of collectors to bid the price up.

[jc_braconi]

I think I found the lens referred to. It's the later type but a screw fit lens which would orginally have had a bayonet mount attached and screwed on.

 

The price is high (about twice as high!) for the type of lens but obviously the mount detail was of sufficient interest to a couple of collectors to bid the price up.

James, this model, if we speak about the lens # 1005777, never has been build in bayonet mount.

The price reached is only the result from a battle from two bidders (as sometimes occurs on Ebay).

 

eBay UK Item Bid History

[earleygallery]

JC,

 

Here's the one I think is being referred to Leitz 3.5cm f/2.8 Summaron lens for Leica camera on eBay (end time 11-Mar-10 20:05:03 GMT)s

 

Edit - Ah, I just saw your e bay link. Indeed a very high price for that lens! As you say more likely the outcome of a battle between rival bidders, fortunate for the seller though.

[luigi bertolotti]

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James, this model, if we speak about the lens # 1005777, never has been build in bayonet mount.

The price reached is only the result from a battle from two bidders (as sometimes occurs on Ebay).

 

eBay UK Item Bid History

 

Wow... I never bought on ebay and didn't know bid histories were available : really funny the above one... ... incredible such a heated battle on a common item... surely the seller is the real winner: I can only think that the two contenders were collectors with some love affair with certains numbers... ... "777" at the end is fine... the BEASTY "666" could had doubled again the price...

[luigi bertolotti]

JC,

 

Here's the one I think is being referred to Leitz 3.5cm f/2.8 Summaron lens for Leica camera on eBay (end time 11-Mar-10 20:05:03 GMT)s

 

Edit - Ah, I just saw your e bay link. Indeed a very high price for that lens! As you say more likely the outcome of a battle between rival bidders, fortunate for the seller though.

 

The 2,8 you refer to is similar to one I have (1.628.xxx), which too has the tiny hole to fit the factory-installed BM adapter... I do not regard this as a significant value adder... but someone can have a different opinion: btw, my one focuses to 0,65, not 0,7, making it a real "bastard"

[jc_braconi]

JC,

 

Here's the one I think is being referred to Leitz 3.5cm f/2.8 Summaron lens for Leica camera on eBay (end time 11-Mar-10 20:05:03 GMT)s

 

James the starting thread was for a 3.5/35 Summaron with A36 lens dia.

[earleygallery]

H JC, the op mentioned E36 so I assumed he had mistaken the larger size of the later lens filters - I didn't see the other lens when I had a quick search on ebay. Both sold for way above their typical values though

[Guest maddoc2003jp]

Wow ! I have a similar 3.5cm 1:3.5 Summaron in screwmount, SN 889xxx with a similar bubble-case and paid about $225 for it (end of 2008). Have prices gone up that much ?

[jc_braconi]

Both sold for way above their typical values though

Hi James,

I use to have a general survey on market/values and in the last months/year the 2.8 Summaron is relatively stable around 400/450 euros in mint condition.

an original SM is around 700/750 euros always in mint condition.

Now this one you are refering with the double mount, complete, can be 600 euros valued, always in mint condition.

Please have a look

here

[Guest JoanMarianne]

Interestingly, a 2.8 Summaron has surfaced on Ebay where the owner has noticed that it a screwmount version intended for use with a bayonet adapter. Apparently it can be fitted to a screwmount body but will not focus correctly.

[luigi bertolotti]

Interestingly, a 2.8 Summaron has surfaced on Ebay where the owner has noticed that it a screwmount version intended for use with a bayonet adapter. Apparently it can be fitted to a screwmount body but will not focus correctly.

This happens if the lens, originally, had the goggles for use on M3.... as far as I know, if it was a model for M2, ungoggled, removal of the BM adapter fitted at the factory does not affect focusing on a screwmount body (my only experience about is the "BM/SM" Super Angulon 21 f4 : adapter fitted with a tiny screw - removed - ok on screwmount)