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Finally pulled the trigger. Bank account is weeping. Getting M9 later this month, thanks to the great service at Dale Camera, and David Farkas' attention.

 

I am excited, of course, but also feel I have to sell some gear to justify this purchase.

 

I own:

 

MP

135 Telyt (latest)

50 1.4 Asph Lux

28 3.8 Elmar

 

Of course I will keep the 50 Lux.

Leaning towards letting the MP go. (?)

David thinks the 135 is great on the M9 and one of Leica's best. I think he would sell the 24 Elmar if he had to sell one of the two.

 

Yes, I know many of you will say any sales must be dictated by the type of photography I do. Well, mostly, it's landscapes first and then people shots, portraits. Which would you keep of the two, keeping in mind the 135 got a lot of use on the MP and I like being able to reach out in landscapes.

 

Also, I love the MP. It's worked well since 03. However, I am finding that film is a hassle, and I cannot get my slides printed into Cibachromes easily any longer. Labs are dropping this service, and no one in my home state will do it any longer (NC), or I haven't found one lately. JW Photo once served me well here, in Raleigh, but no longer. Also, I am getting old, and I know my son, who will inherit all, would never use the MP.

 

On the other hand, I wonder if anyone considers Leica gear "like" money in the bank? In a serious pinch, I suppose one could at anytime sell something Leica. In this respect, maybe conversion of any gear to Federal Reserve Notes is an absurdity. I mean, what if hyperinflation in $ lurks in the not too distant future? Colored paper for a hard asset?

 

Well, any opinions appreciated. I am very excited about the M9 soon.

 

Thanks, and thanks for being part of a great forum!

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Sell the MP, you can always buy another one later. Once you have the M9 in your hands you will fall in love and it will never leave. Additionally, if you need to sell a lens sell the one you have been using the least. The lenses are the same on the MP as the M9, so only you will know which lens you use the most and must keep.

 

ENJOY!!!

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Agree the MP should probably go, if anything. Those 3 lenses form a great range together and will each offer a unique perspective that you will want to explore with the M9 too. I have never regretted selling a camera as much as I have regretted selling a lens! And congratulations :)

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thank you all. this forum is affirming and supportive, esp in times when big purchases made. i am pleased responders love their M9's. did you guys ourchase it with the expectation that the M9 would be your "last" Leica body? I sure did when I bought the MP years ago. I HOPE M9 owners think this way?? I can't afford thinking any other way...

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did you guys purchase it with the expectation that the M9 would be your "last" Leica body? I sure did when I bought the MP years ago. I HOPE M9 owners think this way?? I can't afford thinking any other way...

 

I didnt, but I never did that with any tool I've owned. Especially in the new digital age where technology improves at a rapid pace. But isnt this why we have Ebay? You just sell the M9 and buy an M10...fortunately as the M8 has proven though, a Leica digital camera will far outlast a Canon digital. I have upgraded to 5 different Canon models in the same lifespan as my M8. Hopefully this will be the case w/ the M9

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Ifortunately as the M8 has proven though, a Leica digital camera will far outlast a Canon digital. I have upgraded to 5 different Canon models in the same lifespan as my M8.

 

Does this mean that you've worn out five Canons in three years, or just that you can't resist buying the latest model? if the latter, the only reason Leicas outlast Canons is that new ones don't come along so often.:D

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Don't sell anything!

 

Especially Leica.

 

I agree that the MP is #1 target for selling but I'm always surprised at the number of people who come back to film after "dumping everything for digital". If after several years you still aren't using the mp and don't see yourself ever doing so then go ahead and sell it. I only ever sell equipment I'm no longer using.

 

If you sell your MP now and and buy it back later its still not your MP. Is there nothing else you can sell? You can't ride out the financial hardship for just a couple months?

 

IMHO

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Does this mean that you've worn out five Canons in three years, or just that you can't resist buying the latest model? if the latter, the only reason Leicas outlast Canons is that new ones don't come along so often.:D

 

LOL!! So true.

Of course I upgraded to have the latest technology...doesnt everyone? :)

 

But...I still prefer the 3 yo M8 over the latest Canon 5DII (in most situations)...which says alot about the longevity of digital M's

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I wonder if anyone considers Leica gear "like" money in the bank? In a serious pinch, I suppose one could at anytime sell something Leica. In this respect, maybe conversion of any gear to Federal Reserve Notes is an absurdity. I mean, what if hyperinflation in $ lurks in the not too distant future? Colored paper for a hard asset?

 

Not counting inflation, I cannot see the price of any film camera body holding in the future; film users will continue to dwindle, reducing the number of potential buyers. Sell it now if you do not intend to use it. If you want a hard asset as an inflation hedge, buy gold with the proceeds from the camera.

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EXCELLENT RECOMMENDATION: Gold!

Here in the US, very rare to find anybody "investing" in gold. It's insane. Recent U tube vid showed this guy randomly going up to folks in San Diego and offering to sell them a 1 oz Maple for $50. No takers. (Spot price for coin was 1100) The $ is a complete crock -- colored paper, that's all, eventually.

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thank you all. this forum is affirming and supportive, esp in times when big purchases made. i am pleased responders love their M9's. did you guys ourchase it with the expectation that the M9 would be your "last" Leica body? I sure did when I bought the MP years ago. I HOPE M9 owners think this way?? I can't afford thinking any other way...

Actually I purchased the M9 with the idea: " Well, it's digital, let's see what Leica makes in five years time.. " But the more I use the camera the more I lose interest in future technological development.

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Actually I purchased the M9 with the idea: " Well, it's digital, let's see what Leica makes in five years time.. " But the more I use the camera the more I lose interest in future technological development.

 

I'm not certain of your meaning. You love the M9 so much that you cannot imagine the need to "upgrade" in the future? Or you are so disappointed in the M9 that you have lost all interest in Leica digital?

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Actually I purchased the M9 with the idea: " Well, it's digital, let's see what Leica makes in five years time.. " But the more I use the camera the more I lose interest in future technological development.

 

But, you wouldn't have bought it if the R hadn't fallen through...right? I give you about 3 years to cave in again (and probably keep the M9), depending of course on Leica's overall product development.:D

 

It's the Leica way. Can't fight it. Many have failed.:D

 

Jeff

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I'm not certain of your meaning. You love the M9 so much that you cannot imagine the need to "upgrade" in the future? Or you are so disappointed in the M9 that you have lost all interest in Leica digital?
Nothing to do with love - it is just that I cannot imagine reaching the limits of the potential of the M9 in the forseeable future- so a hypothetical M10 would have to bring some pretty strong stuff to the party.
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Not counting inflation, I cannot see the price of any film camera body holding in the future; film users will continue to dwindle, reducing the number of potential buyers. Sell it now if you do not intend to use it. If you want a hard asset as an inflation hedge, buy gold with the proceeds from the camera.

 

In what shape is the MP?

Also of some importance: any a la carte features?

 

The first question is imo the more important one.

 

World wide the number of people who want a Leica in good shape primarily as a status symbol* increases, specially at the entry level, where film Ms not in mint condition are. On the other hand, hardly any film Leicas are manufactured today.

So to sell a MP in A condition in a momentary market where a lot of them are on offer for financing a M9 is something I would not recommend.

 

Talking about this MP not being a collectible for whatever reasons, but one that has seen moderate, amateur use.

* By no means only as a status symbol (sorry, that was an unfair and simplistic statement) but also for exactely the same reasons the present owners (and occasional users) of film Leicas cherish them: we take pride to have a very compact tool, built to mechanical standards and with an expertise and historic value not common any more in this century, for the price film M Leicas cost today.

+ M6 M7 and MP, due to the built in light meter, offer occasional film snappers a chance to still have very decent results.

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I think m9 is a very great camera, despite its shortcomings. But I will suggest you to find something that suits you best.

 

As for value of leica cameras, I think all electronics or machinaries will go down in value at a certain point of time. Especially digital cameras. The leica lenses however, is holding up pretty well.

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