SiOnara Posted January 19, 2010 Share #1 Posted January 19, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) ....i am decided on the Leica M8 and a 28mm lens. I do love the X1 and once I try a production copy my thoughts may change, but I feel the M8 and lens will prove more long lasting for me. My only real reservations now are the ISO performance between both cameras, as the X1 seems better, but I guess the M8 will have overall better performance picture wise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jsrockit Posted January 19, 2010 Share #2 Posted January 19, 2010 Good choice... I made the same choice, but then decided I "need" the X1 as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted January 19, 2010 Share #3 Posted January 19, 2010 ....i am decided on the Leica M8 and a 28mm lens. I do love the X1 and once I try a production copy my thoughts may change, but I feel the M8 and lens will prove more long lasting for me. My only real reservations now are the ISO performance between both cameras, as the X1 seems better, but I guess the M8 will have overall better performance picture wise. Also, faster response times, a vast collection of lenses, a better viewfinder for framing, better IQ of course... but also heavier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delnerdo Posted January 19, 2010 Share #4 Posted January 19, 2010 I too have come to a similar conclusion. Out of curiousity, which 28mm lens will you select? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted January 19, 2010 Share #5 Posted January 19, 2010 Gus, if you select an 28mm, buy an elmarit... just to be compact Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted January 19, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted January 19, 2010 Yeah I think for cost wise and size I would go with an Elmarit. I am also open to all the other less priced lenses for the M fitting too like Zeiss and Voigtlander, hopefully with their own characteristics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro1and Posted January 20, 2010 Share #7 Posted January 20, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) I bought my M8 and 28/2.8 a year ago and love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted January 20, 2010 Share #8 Posted January 20, 2010 Leica lenses are superlative and will last forever, so if you want to keep on getting the best out of them and go digital, M8 or M9 is the only way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptu Posted January 20, 2010 Share #9 Posted January 20, 2010 I am also having a huge mental battle between waiting for X1 or getting something else e.g. GF1. Bad side is that I just sold my camera bag so no space for DSLR in bag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted January 20, 2010 Share #10 Posted January 20, 2010 ....i am decided on the Leica M8 and a 28mm lens. I do love the X1 and once I try a production copy my thoughts may change, but I feel the M8 and lens will prove more long lasting for me. My only real reservations now are the ISO performance between both cameras, as the X1 seems better, but I guess the M8 will have overall better performance picture wise. Megadust, I am sure you know that the M8 and X1 are not strictly comparable cameras. Many Leica photographers will see them as complementary cameras. Apart from the obvious benefits of the X1's size and bulk, the two cameras would work very well together provided you choose an M-lens of focal length other than 28mm. So if your plans can reach that far ahead, think of what other focal length for the M8 would give you a very practical outfit. I would suggest a 75mm for portraits and landscape/architecture details. If so, consider the 75mm Summarit which is an extremely fine and practical lens. Some people might argue the case for a 50mm instead of the 75mm but I prefer the wider spread. In time you could add a super-wide angle lens depending on your chosen field of photography. I encourage you to think ahead in terms of what would give you the greatest flexibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted January 20, 2010 Share #11 Posted January 20, 2010 Many Leica photographers will see them as complementary cameras. Apart from the obvious benefits of the X1's size and bulk, the two cameras would work very well together provided you choose an M-lens of focal length other than 28mm. I agree. The X1 will be my 35mm lens camera. My M8 is my 50mm lens camera. I will use them together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted January 20, 2010 Share #12 Posted January 20, 2010 If I had the luxury of purchasing two camera systems, and one of them be the M8, then I would go GF1 as a complimentary camera, because: GF1 is a fast AF camera can use macro and telephoto lens, that an M8 doesn't can shoot video, and yes M8 quality and blablabla, video is needed sometimes. is cheap The X1 is not complimentary, it is competitive to the M8... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted January 20, 2010 Share #13 Posted January 20, 2010 The X1 is not complimentary, it is competitive to the M8... How is the X1 a competitor and the GF-1 isn't? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted January 20, 2010 Share #14 Posted January 20, 2010 The m8 is basically used in focal lengths close to the 35mm of the x1. granted, there is no option to xchange lens on the x1... The x1 delivers IQ like the M8, not at the same level but IQ is there. Instead of using the x1 @ 35mm, you can buy a better 35mm lens and get better IQ than the x1 and for less cost The GF1 can be used for telephoto work, or AVCHD video -my 2c Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted January 20, 2010 Share #15 Posted January 20, 2010 I'm confused here - the m8 used with a lens is going to be at least twice the cost of an x1.. isn't it? I think there may be a transposed x1 instead of gf1 in your post - doesn't seem clear. I would consider the x1 and gf1 to be closer competitors than the x1 and a used m8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted January 20, 2010 Share #16 Posted January 20, 2010 I'm confused here - the m8 used with a lens is going to be at least twice the cost of an x1.. isn't it? I think there may be a transposed x1 instead of gf1 in your post - doesn't seem clear. I would consider the x1 and gf1 to be closer competitors than the x1 and a used m8. I got my M8 for $2226 used and the Voigtlander 35mm f/2.5 lens is about $250 used. Sure, not X1 price, but not too far off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiOnara Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share #17 Posted January 20, 2010 I will probably go for a new M8. I can pick one up about £2200 or so. Then I know it will be in perfect condition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted January 20, 2010 Share #18 Posted January 20, 2010 I'm confused here - the m8 used with a lens is going to be at least twice the cost of an x1.. isn't it? I think there may be a transposed x1 instead of gf1 in your post - doesn't seem clear. I would consider the x1 and gf1 to be closer competitors than the x1 and a used m8. Of all the 3, the GF1 is a real el cheapo camera. The problem with the X1 is it's price: it is so expensive that one can find a deal with a second hand M8 (of course) which is a better deal. With a summarit lens the package might be at the same price. The GF1 is the only real cheap camera. The x1 can compete an M8 with its great IQ, but if someone needs something faster or, a different lens then the X1 lose. And the M8 is already small and compact, but heavy. Also, another mistake is when someone wants to buy a GF1 to use Leica lens. Buy an M if you want to use good lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted January 20, 2010 Share #19 Posted January 20, 2010 I'd be careful confusing cheap with inexpensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stkorn Posted January 20, 2010 Share #20 Posted January 20, 2010 Of all the 3, the GF1 is a real el cheapo camera..... It must be good news for Leica when people think lower price must equal lower quality but in truth that is not the case here. The m4/3 cameras released so far are well-built and take very good images while costing nearly 1/2 the price of X1. Whether you prefer GF1 or X1 is a personal question but let's not unfairly disparage the GF1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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