leicapages Posted July 7, 2006 Share #1 Posted July 7, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, since the DMR is already in the market for some time, and given the "normal" price decreases that is customary with digital products, could we also expect a price decrease for the DMR to happen soon? The current selling price at most dealers goes for about 4.800 euro (VAT included), which is a lot of money. I found one German foto dealer with a webshop, selling it for 4.200 euro. But that is about as low as I have found at all :-( Pascal http://www.leicapages.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 7, 2006 Posted July 7, 2006 Hi leicapages, Take a look here DMR price decrease in sight?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
andybarton Posted July 7, 2006 Share #2 Posted July 7, 2006 This is not a "normal" massed produced digital product, though. They are still over £3,000 in the UK ( about 4,500 euro, US$5,250) What's the demand like? If people are still buying them in some numbers, why would Leica want to reduce the price substantially? It's not like there's a DMR-II coming anytime soon, unlike most of the opposition. It's really only when dealers and warehouses are clearing stock for new models that prices start to drop. (I got 15% off a 350D yesterday afternoon, just by asking) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gautier Posted July 7, 2006 Share #3 Posted July 7, 2006 The price of Leica products increases each year. Official price for a DMR in France : 2005 : 4600 € 2006 : 4795 € If you read french : summilux.net Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm1912 Posted July 7, 2006 Share #4 Posted July 7, 2006 I've been looking at prices of digital cameras on Ebay and it surprises me how much a used D20 can go for. I am hoping, to get back to Leica, that with the introduction of some new SLR digital product, the DMR will drop in price. One would think that, as with any other digital product, there is an inevitable bit of obsolessence built into the system. But somehow the DMR seems to be holding its value quite well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 7, 2006 Share #5 Posted July 7, 2006 Leica will want to keep the prices - and their profits - as high as possible for as long as possible both to write-off development costs and to improve their commercial position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicapages Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share #6 Posted July 7, 2006 Mark, on the first part of your statement, I feel you are right (regrettably...), but on the second part I do not think this is commercially optimal as it discourages more people from buying than would otherwise have been the case! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 7, 2006 Share #7 Posted July 7, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, yes, I agree, if only they knew how the demand would vary with price, they would be able to set the price to maximise their profits. I saw your post on the German forum and was interested to look at the German dealer web-site where it said that they were no longer able to sell Leica products on the internet. Leica clamping down on the grey market I wonder? To keep prices high? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm1912 Posted July 7, 2006 Share #8 Posted July 7, 2006 A naive question: is Leica still producing the DMR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicapages Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share #9 Posted July 7, 2006 Mark, yes it seems Leica has decided to go for the "Leica shop" concept only (sometimes "shop-within-the-shop" like in bigger warehouses). I believe that many other dealers, that were "authorized" before, are thus no longer official outlets. I have seen this with some German web-based sales houses that no longer sell Leica (apart from old stock). This new policy certainly presents advantages from a brand positioning point of view, but also means that the Leica products are only available at fewer places. In practice, however, in Belgium for instance, you would have difficulty finding any dealer at all that has a reasonable stock of Leica products... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted July 7, 2006 Share #10 Posted July 7, 2006 There is a deal going on here in the States with a 1000 dollar rebate trade in program and i just can't find the darn link to it but basically you buy a R9/DMR and trade in any film camera and get 1000 dollar rebate and if you do the math it comes close to the cost of the 1dsMKII . I believe it is like 7400 dollars after rebate. You do need to check that though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted July 7, 2006 Share #11 Posted July 7, 2006 Here you go: http://www.leica-camera.com/unternehmen/international/usa/aktionen/index_e.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicapages Posted July 7, 2006 Author Share #12 Posted July 7, 2006 nice deal indeed, if only I did not already have an R9, an R8 and an extensive series of lenses... What's being done for the existing R users ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 7, 2006 Share #13 Posted July 7, 2006 nice deal indeed If you live in the US... European buyers can whistle for a deal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted July 7, 2006 Share #14 Posted July 7, 2006 If you live in the US...European buyers can whistle for a deal... Same deal is available in Germany. Go to Leica web site http://www.leica-camera.com/index_e.html. Under dropdown "Sales promotions" menu, choose Germany. You can even buy a Leica birdy if you're in Germany. We in the US have the short end of the stick. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 7, 2006 Share #15 Posted July 7, 2006 Same deal is available in Germany. OK, then. BRITISH Leica buyers can whistle... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bono0272 Posted July 8, 2006 Share #16 Posted July 8, 2006 Well, here in Hong Kong, the latest price of a brand new DMR, official warranty, is selling at around 3800 EURO. While I bought my DMR last November, it was 4000 EURO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 8, 2006 Share #17 Posted July 8, 2006 Sales Tax/VAT/GST will account for at least some of the difference in the price you pay - from nothing in some US states to 16% (for now) in Germany, 17.5% in the UK, 19% in France and on up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flatfour Posted July 8, 2006 Share #18 Posted July 8, 2006 I asked a friend to check on prices and supply in Hong Kong on a recent holiday and the dealer told him they can sell every one they get. (The price was too high for me) This doesn't seem like the time for a price cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbedsted1234 Posted July 8, 2006 Share #19 Posted July 8, 2006 Flatfour, That sounds great. There is no doubt that the probability of an R10 increases with every DM-R sold at the list price. I would also imagine that the DM-R would be discounted when a new version of Canon 1dsmkIII or a new version of Nikon D2X comes into the marketplace. Regards, Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 8, 2006 Share #20 Posted July 8, 2006 It would be interesting to know how many of those are being sold to new R users instead of to existing users. If the R is to survive long term, it has to attract new users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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