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As others already said, the only thing that matters are your pictures. Whatever you choose to take them is up to you. If you found that other tools will support you better in the eternal run towards perfection then second your feeling.

 

Good light,

Bruno

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Eric, I'm sorry to hear that you have left the fold, and I hope that someday you may return. As others have mentioned, there is something almost magical about Leica lenses, and the 'M' camera is a joy to use.

There are times when an SLR is the better tool to use, and I agree that the current crop of SLR cameras do have an edge on Leica for extremely high ISO capability. I parted with my 'R' equipment last year after Leica's decision to abandon the system, and I replaced this with a D700 and some good Nikon lenses. (I already had an F3 and collection of older Nikon lenses.) I'm very happy with these, and they fill my SLR requirements nicely.

But I will never part with my 'M' equipment. I may upgrade it in time, but I'll never dispose of it. For almost any occasion where I don't need a long lens, or extreme ISO, the 'M' is my camera of choice. Some complain about its JPG files, AWB and low-light capabilities, but they seem fine to me. The below picture was taken in the snow last night, with the only light being that from a 7W energy saver bulb in the garden lamp. This photograph is a JPG file direct from the camera. Auto everything apart from shutter speed and aperture. (Summarit 35, 4 seconds at f:2.5.) The glowing blob is my fault entirely, as I had left the filter in place to keep any snow away from the lens front element. But the colours and noise levels look OK to me. In fact I can see more detail in the photograph than I could with my eye.

 

So, I wish you success with your new system Eric, and please be assured that you'll always be welcome to return. :)

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Eric - First, let me thanks for your consideration in saying thanks to the forum with your goodbye.

 

I suspect that he'll be back ... even if it's only with a single Leica lens. The allure of Leica glass is hard to leave behind forever.

 

absolutely :D:D

 

I suspect not; the reason being the S2.

 

The camera size and lens-design advantages for rangefinder cameras are wonderful assets for the M system, but Leica have chosen to invest commitment to the S2 rather than expand the M-camera range [which some of us think is needed].

 

Personally, I only rarely use ISO above 160, but I can see that there are those with legitimate needs for 'D3s quality' very high ISO files from an M camera. I'd like an M9 [with it's current sensor], but understand why others would prefer the option of a 'high-speed' version of the M9. Given Leica's S2 distractions, a non ccd alternative M is unlikely, as is a redesign of the Classic[ally] awful image framing of the M.

 

I can see why the original poster would not come back to Leica M, for many people it's a system that is unnecessarily uninviting.

 

My name is Chris - and it seems I'm a heretic.

 

................ Chris

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M8 with 24mm Elmar f3.8

 

Hello,

I'm a new convert to the M8, about a month.

I must admit that the RF concept has an allure that is missing from the DSLR world, however it is a limited system. My D700 does extraordinary work, beautiful captures and the oft mentioned unbelievable high ISO ability. In virtually any situation the Nikon will perform and produce beautiful images. For macro, lowlight or telephoto work the Nikon is the only choice HOWEVER, my backpack weighs 20 pounds with the Nikon system.

The M8 travels with me, it's light, fast and feels great in the hand. The images the M8 produces are stunning, especially when the smaller sensor size and lower pixel count is considered.

I really didn't want to to fall in love with Leica glass but after only a month my bag has two Summicrons (used), an Elmar and a CV 15. Now I'm a certified Leica addict, and out of disposable income!

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On behalf of many new users of used Leica M8's and M8.2's, I would like to thank those that are saying "GoodBye Leica".

 

Your equipment is going to a better place.

 

:D

 

You're welcome to grab my used M8.2 that I brought to my dealer last week. That doesn't mean I'm saying "Goodbye Leica", though, I just said farewell to digital photography. (And I know that one should never say never...)

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Lovely shot, Sailronin, and demonstrates what the 24 is all about. In these sort of discussisons a picture really does speak a thousand words. Nuff said!

 

Robert

 

Thank you Robert. I'm very happy with that lens and the whole system. Like any tool you just have to operate within it's limitations and beyond that, use a different tool!

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When you get tired of those soft images created by big heavy cameras, you'll be back.

 

Soft? Are ready to start another flame? I guess all the published commercial photography are soft. I wonder if you have seen images from the Noctilux --- now, that's soft!

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Soft? Are ready to start another flame? I guess all the published commercial photography are soft. I wonder if you have seen images from the Noctilux --- now, that's soft!

 

Arthury I don't presume to answer for Paul but I think he was speaking with a certain amount of tongue in cheek. Besides we all know the quality of Leica lenses for what they are. That, I believe, is what he was really saying.

 

Now when it comes to discussing the Noctilux, are you trying for a flame war? ;):D Of course it has a degree of softness under certain conditions, which the user must understand. But the lens itself is unique and should be used for that quality. I'm sure you know that anyway. :)

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Can't bear to part with my MP, M7 and M8.2 nor the lenses. Just got a GF-1 with their excellent 20mm f1.7 pancake, and also their M adapter. It may not be a perfect match for my 35lux, but at least it get's some use.

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different systems for different subject/environment/mood. but i know i wouldn't bring my canon system again when traveling, the 1dsii body alone with a prime lens is heavier than if i bring an M6 + M8 with three lenses. i still use the canon for shooting action only now.

 

best,

andy

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I can see how the bad economy influenced your decision. I'm holding onto my m8. Like others I also use a 5d II with L, Zeiss and Leica glass and love it but I can't see parting with the M8. As long as I am able to I will hold onto it. I don't feel optimistic about the economy, there needs to be a shift away from greed in the corporate sector and it ain't happening. Our values have gone South.

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