jaapv Posted January 3, 2010 Share #1 Posted January 3, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) M9, Summilux 50 asph. Thank you for looking and comments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Walt Calahan Posted January 3, 2010 Share #3 Posted January 3, 2010 Perfect use of shallow depth-of-field. Wish most of my students could grasp this concept. I prefer the color over the B&W version for this image because the color has a greater sense of depth from foreground to soft background. That's just my take, I'm sure other will differ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckw Posted January 4, 2010 Share #4 Posted January 4, 2010 Great bokeh! I also prefer the color, the background has an almost impressionistic quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauledell Posted January 4, 2010 Share #5 Posted January 4, 2010 Jaap, A lovely shot with the shallow DOF yet sharpness, wonderful bokeh, and composition. I like the color version for the appearance of depth. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamann Posted January 4, 2010 Share #6 Posted January 4, 2010 Nice composition... but my choice of camera and lens would have been different DMR + R60 Macro Elmarit Thanks for sharing Cheers, JRM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted January 4, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Why:confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamann Posted January 4, 2010 Share #8 Posted January 4, 2010 Why:confused: There is some beautiful texture on the bullrush...your composition of 3 would remain, so would the crop, but your magnification would bring you right in to get that detail...I know where your going with this... "I am perfectly happy with the M9 and 50mm with this........"fine..... I would have to be there with my DMR and 60MM to "show you"..when you would "see"..you would understand what I am saying. Other choice would be the M9 and 75mm lux..but that might not give the right crop( natural crop) I simply would not have used a 50mm for this shot...thats all ...call it personal preference Cheers, JRM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share #9 Posted January 4, 2010 Well, the difference in focal length between 50 and 60 mm lens is minimal, so that is not very relevant, I find the Summilux 50 asph reproduces textures better than my Macro Elmarit, and I would lose two stops of unsharpness and thus the effect of the image. I would not take my DMR and Macro-Elmarit in this case, in fact I didn't, despite the cameras lying side by side.. I must confess the macro-elmarit is not my favorite lens, because I dislike the bokeh.. Btw, you should see the way the texture looks on an image that is not dumbed down by JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbertoDeRoma Posted January 4, 2010 Share #10 Posted January 4, 2010 Very, VERY, nice example of shallow depth of field and beautiful bokeh. It could be a textbook example. Alberto Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamann Posted January 4, 2010 Share #11 Posted January 4, 2010 Well, the difference in focal length between 50 and 60 mm lens is minimal, so that is not very relevant, I find the Summilux 50 asph reproduces textures better than my Macro Elmarit, and I would lose two stops of unsharpness and thus the effect of the image. I would not take my DMR and Macro-Elmarit in this case, in fact I didn't, despite the cameras lying side by side.. I must confess the macro-elmarit is not my favorite lens, because I dislike the bokeh.. Btw, you should see the way the texture looks on an image that is not dumbed down by JPG Unfortunately..yeah posting images here is a pain..because are you say by the time it gets here its a joke compared to the original. Yes thew 50MM 1.4 Summmi is very sharp, I am painfully aware of that with Bill Hollinger posting some 100's( if not 1000's) of examples on this Forum a few years ago when the new 50 and the new 75 lux were all the rage. In the end I preferred the 75mm Lux, the 50 lux was "un-naturally sharp" sort of uber-photo look about it ..of course gorgeous bokeh. Your one of the few people I know who "dislike the 60mm Macro"..unusual response....like I said its a personal preference on my part...its hard to discuss on a forum like this, it would be better if you were here or I was at your place and I could demonstrate what I was talking about. It boils down to personal taste and preferences Cheers, JRM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted January 4, 2010 Share #12 Posted January 4, 2010 This is potentially an interesting debate - as with John, I would have instinctively have reached for the DMR 60 combination for this shot but the M9 50ASPH is an interesting altenative - do you really think we are looking at 2 stops of additional sharpness, or is it the greater contrast of the ASPH lens we are considering ? (As you know I'm a devotee of the pre-ASPH version but what you're putting forward makes for an interesting option) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share #13 Posted January 4, 2010 It is, after all, a matter of taste. I prefer the more precise bokeh of the asph lenses. I believe that is what created the impressionist brush in this image. The older lenses are softer, sometimes a bit chaotic, even swirly, which I don't like as much. That would have been my problem (far too strong a word) with the Elmarit - plus losing two stops worth of unsharpness. Resolution as such is not that important, of course, but I feel the excellent microcontrast of the 50 asph outperforms the Elmarit. It is difficult to compare on different sensors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vdb Posted January 5, 2010 Share #14 Posted January 5, 2010 The color version is simply luscious...for light,color and bokeh. I have never used an R/DMR camera or R60....but if this could be improved upon I would love to see it. Since it sounds like you have the kit, how about giving it a whirl? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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