skimmel Posted December 6, 2006 Share #1 Posted December 6, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Has there been any confirmation on the possible 30% rebate off of a new Leica lens with the purchase of an M8 before end of year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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carstenw Posted December 6, 2006 Share #2 Posted December 6, 2006 Everyone who has gotten the confirmation talked to their dealer. Talk to your dealer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canlogic Posted December 6, 2006 Share #3 Posted December 6, 2006 I sent an email to Leica customer service asking how the repair etc was going to work and I asked about the 30%. I got a reply from Roger Horn of Leica USA but didn't get any answer other than to talk to my dealer. They at first told me that I would be able to get the discount but after conversations with Leica they retracted that and said that if there was anything it would be handled by Leica directly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmel Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted December 7, 2006 I just checked with my dealer who is very reliable and knowledgable. He said that Leica has told him nothing of a 30% discount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted December 7, 2006 Share #5 Posted December 7, 2006 Wow, what a guy! Maybe it is time to contact your country's Leica rep then. Or maybe it is just a question of time, before the information trickles down the chain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted December 7, 2006 Share #6 Posted December 7, 2006 I sent one of my plainly worded letters to the MD of Leica UK - David Bell - asking for information on this and other aspects of the M8 "fix" by return. I suggest other people here in the UK do the same. Leica UK, fax 01908 671316. Why fax? In situations like this, I find it's better to have a physical piece of paper lying around rather than sending an email which may or may not hit its target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim B Posted December 7, 2006 Share #7 Posted December 7, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Mark, Good idea. When I spoke to the Leica rep. in a London dealer's on Tuesday all he could do was refer me to his printout of the Leica announcement, which is very vague about the 30%. The dealer was equally vague. Whilst we had fun working out what a new 21mm would be at 30% discount all he could say was that this was directly between Leica and the customer - the dealers were cut out of the process. I am reluctant to lay out the balance of my deposit just before Christmas when my order, placed in September, is not expected to be filled until March. Does Leica earn interest on my £2700? On the other hand if it was categorically the case that any fully paid for order was eligible for the discount on a new lens, I would be foolish not to take advantage of it. I think we need clarification - and very quickly. It isn't long to Decemebr 31st. __ Tim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted December 7, 2006 Share #8 Posted December 7, 2006 I'm going to start a thread with 35% something for nothing and see if I can get even more responses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted December 7, 2006 Share #9 Posted December 7, 2006 I sent one of my plainly worded letters to the MD of Leica UK - David Bell - asking for information on this and other aspects of the M8 "fix" by return. I had a reply from David Bell within 90 minutes of start of business which is welcome. He kindly offered me the loan of a fixed camera to convince myself the problems are behind them which I am not going to take up because it's better it finds its way into the hands of someone waiting but he still responded positively to my concerns. The key question for me was: "Where Next?". He told me was that once you have registered your camera on the web-site, you will receive a letter detailing the next actions for getting the camera updated and the lens offer. So, a welcome step in the right direction: we know what will happen next and we know the lens offer is real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbjr Posted December 7, 2006 Share #10 Posted December 7, 2006 i also hear it's going to be directly from leica, thus cutting out the dealer's profit. further, there's a good chance that the 30% is taken off the msrp, not the minimum advertised price (the latter is the one buyers typically pay). if that's the case we all end up with maybe a 10% or max 15% discount off what we'd otherwise pay. and leica ends up getting mote than if they sold through the dealer channel. so the generous gesture to leica's customers who've had to struggle with the early production issues ends up being a money maker for them..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted December 7, 2006 Share #11 Posted December 7, 2006 Well, if you don't like the terms of the lens deal, you don't have to subscribe to it. I don't think anyone expects Leica to make lenses available at below cost, but if I can save €1000 off the most expensive lens I have ever bought, it's a good deal in my book. Assuming the 16-18-21 lens is included, it will be interesting to see if the lens/univeral finder package is also included. Hope so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted December 7, 2006 Share #12 Posted December 7, 2006 I sent a copy of a post I had left here to Leica, asking why you had to pay in full and register before Dec. 31st. Was there some hidden promise behind this? What I would be denied if I DID NOT pay in full before Dec. 31st,? The answer from Leica, NJ (they did reply), is: « Nothing, you will still be able to receive two filters.» Note that I never mentioned filters in the post. The only date pertaining to the free filters was that you could start registering by Dec. 6th. to get them, anyway. OTH, my dealer seems to think that Leica will offer a 30% discount on something Leica (not necessarily a lens) if you pay in full and register before Dec. 31st. Go figure. It feels like Leica is saying: «Okay, send us your money right away, and we may offer you a 30% discount on something, but only if you buy directly from us. We also may not offer a 30% discount. We're not sure yet. But send the money. As for your camera, now that we have your money, we're in no rush ro deliver it to you, and you will get it when you will get it.» Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venkman Posted December 7, 2006 Share #13 Posted December 7, 2006 It feels like Leica is saying: «Okay, send us your money right away, and we may offer you a 30% discount on something, but only if you buy directly from us. We also may not offer a 30% discount. We're not sure yet. But send the money. As for your camera, now that we have your money, we're in no rush ro deliver it to you, and you will get it when you will get it.» A bit too paranoid, don't you think? As I wrote earlier in another thread, I received a letter from Leica through my dealer, in which the whole 30% deal was nicely laid out to me. Not to mention that I received that letter less than a week after I bought the camera in his shop - without reservation whatsoever. Walked in, saw it, fiddled with it, bought it. I registered for the 2 filters on their website yesterday. That is a different story, because ALL M8 buyers are entitled to receive 2 units per cam. The 30% off deal is exclusively for the early adopters and those who decided to buy the cam before year's end. Like it or not - that's the way it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted December 7, 2006 Share #14 Posted December 7, 2006 OTH, my dealer seems to think that Leica will offer a 30% discount on something Leica (not necessarily a lens) if you pay in full and register before Dec. 31st. Go figure. Actually, it seems to me that the dealers are caught in the middle here, probably pretty unhappy because the 'sweeteners" Leica is offering undercut their role, And because when Leica's offer leaves their customers upset, they (the dealers) are the ones who have to calm things down. I am not surprised that the result is finger pointing and unclear communications, although the documents that I have seen (from my dealer) couldn't be much clearer. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted December 7, 2006 Share #15 Posted December 7, 2006 A bit too paranoid, don't you think? As I wrote earlier in another thread, I received a letter from Leica through my dealer, in which the whole 30% deal was nicely laid out to me. Not to mention that I received that letter less than a week after I bought the camera in his shop - without reservation whatsoever. Walked in, saw it, fiddled with it, bought it. I registered for the 2 filters on their website yesterday. That is a different story, because ALL M8 buyers are entitled to receive 2 units per cam. The 30% off deal is exclusively for the early adopters and those who decided to buy the cam before year's end. Like it or not - that's the way it is. YOU received a letter through your dealer. Good for you. I did not. Nor did hundreds, or even thousands, of other people. So, how should we know? Maybe if I lived in Hamburg. But in North America? All I know is that the Leica rep. at Leica, NJ, totally dodged the issue of the Dec. 31st deadline, and didn't even acknowledged there was a hidden promise (the 30% discount?) He just mentioned filters, which had nothing to do with my mail, nor with the Dec. 31st issue. Also, I think I am an early buyer, since I ordered my M8 a month ago, just before Leica halted all shipments. And now, I should be denied the discount (if any) because THEY have delayed delivery of my camera, and I may not get it before next year? So, yes, you bet I'm paranoid. There's got to be a reason why. They want me to fork the entire amount without even telling me when I would get my M8, but above all, WHY I should pay in full. Come on! When I receive a letter (through my dealer or otherwise) or when Leica make a clear, precise and straightforward announcement stating: « If you pay your M8 in full before Dec. 31st you will be entitled a 30% discount on a new Leica M lens, and your camera will be delivered as initially planned. Signed, Leica Cameras, Solms, Germany », we'll see. Today is Dec.7th., and December is dwindling away. So far, I haven't seen this writtten anywhere. If somebody has, I'll gladly go and read it, and I'll stand corrected. But until then, I will remain paranoid, and I will NOT pay in full until I get my camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. borger Posted December 7, 2006 Share #16 Posted December 7, 2006 As far as i remember there never was an official Leica anouncement on the 30% offer ..... only reports and statements through SOME dealers .... perhaps Leica wants to handle this low-profile ..... Ever thought about the number of people who bought an M8 and do not visit internetforums ........ they know nothing about fiters and fixes ... they are not even aware of the "problem"! I got no letter from my dealer so far to register, get a fix, free-filters, discounts or whatever ....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venkman Posted December 7, 2006 Share #17 Posted December 7, 2006 But until then, I will remain paranoid, and I will NOT pay in full until I get my camera. Olivier, that might be the problem - cause in my letter, it is clearly stated that you qualify for 30% in case a) you purchased your M8 before December 31st OR have it on order with full downpayment. You might want to talk to your dealer about this particular detail, cause Leica was in every communication so far, from the leaked dealer infos to the written confirmation I received, very specific about full downpayment. Don't ask me why, just observing. Dirk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted December 7, 2006 Share #18 Posted December 7, 2006 They've certainly muddied the water by this 31 December date. Just think of the possibilities: - I have a first generation camera and it needs fixing - I have a second generation camera and it's OK but I got it before 31 December. - I have a second generation camera and it needs fixing for something else - I have a camera on order and have paid the deposit - I have a camera on order and and have paid for it in full - I have a camera on order, meant to pay for it but the dealer didn't process my credit card payment in time. An so it goes on. It would have been much simpler to just say: if you received a first generation camera, you can exchange it for a second generation camera or return it for update in which case we'll give you 30% off a lens for your inconvenience. The more complex they make it, the more loopholes there will be and the more grouchy litigious customers who haven't got their 30%. Leica should adhere to the K.I.S.S. principle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted December 7, 2006 Share #19 Posted December 7, 2006 Olivier, that might be the problem - cause in my letter, it is clearly stated that you qualify for 30% in case a) you purchased your M8 before December 31st OR have it on order with full downpayment. You might want to talk to your dealer about this particular detail, cause Leica was in every communication so far, from the leaked dealer infos to the written confirmation I received, very specific about full downpayment. Don't ask me why, just observing. Dirk You don't understand. I am not going to give $6,000 Can. (that is A LOT of money!) to Leica for an M8 I have no idea when I will receive, if I don't see, in writing by Leica, that they guarantee I will get a 30% on a lens in exchange for my downpayment. What idiot would do that, for crying out loud? Unfortunately, so far, all I've seen is rumors on the Internet, and contradictory statements by Leica. Why is it that Leica can't, or won't, clarify this issue? THIS is what makes me suspicious. Call it paranoid, if you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
canlogic Posted December 7, 2006 Share #20 Posted December 7, 2006 You don't understand. I am not going to give $6,000 Can. (that is A LOT of money!) to Leica for an M8 I have no idea when I will receive, if I don't see, in writing by Leica, that they guarantee I will get a 30% on a lens in exchange for my downpayment. What idiot would do that, for crying out loud? Unfortunately, so far, all I've seen is rumors on the Internet, and contradictory statements by Leica. Why is it that Leica can't, or won't, clarify this issue? THIS is what makes me suspicious. Call it paranoid, if you want. Call up Jean at Camtec maybe he can help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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