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Daniel Leung

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Hi,

 

we were in Mount Tremblant near Montreal on the X'mas night i was trying to take some pictures outdoor and the temperature is around 13 - 15F, the little white rectangle cursor which you use to focus disappear. occasionally, it came back for a couple of seconds and then disappeared again. very annoying. H/e, when I went indoor. it operated liker normal again. did any one experience anything like this?

 

tks

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we were in Mount Tremblant near Montreal on the X'mas night i was trying to take some pictures outdoor and the temperature is around 13 - 15F, the little white rectangle cursor which you use to focus disappear. occasionally, it came back for a couple of seconds and then disappeared again. very annoying. H/e, when I went indoor. it operated liker normal again. did any one experience anything like this?

 

Been out here in Sweden in -10 degrees (celsius) without seeing this problem.

Didn't wear gloves though ;)

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It's when the range finder rectangle turns pink you begin to wonder :confused: . Been there done that, "pinkies" in front of the window :D.

 

It also happens with the 85mm Summarex when the chrome lens hood starts to obstruct the window.

 

As a useful tip: You need to keep the range finder and viewfinder windows at the front of the camera clean and free of smears to make focusing easy and accurate.

 

 

Bob.

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...Been out here in Sweden in -10 degrees (celsius) without seeing this problem.

Didn't wear gloves though ;)

Seems to me that you're just trying to show off your Viking heritage. GOTT NYTT ÅR!

 

—Mitch/Bangkok

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Well, Iooking at the tiny, sweet little battery for the M9 I don't expect it to last very long in very cold Norwegian weather. And it didn't. I made some field testing today since I just had to take some shots in the fantastic late desember light. It was -15 celsius. The first battery made about 85 pics, the next (3/4 charged according to the info panel) 57 pics. As a backup I brought the little Dlux-4. Took 50 pics with the D4 and the camera tells the battery is still fully charged. Coming home and looking at the pictures they are fine from both cameas, but the

M9 files are outstanding at ISO 160, lux 35 1,4 asph. and f8, just as they were supposed to. Would I like a better battery and not having to bring a pocket full of them? well yes!!

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Antonius - beautiful.

 

It's interesting to read this thread this morning. As I write this from Jackson Hole, Wyoming, my son has just brought into the house the M9 I stupidly left in the car last night. It was -5 F when we went to bed, and is minus 10 F now. I have the camera warming and won't attempt to turn it on til it thaws. Will be interesting to see what happens... Will report in shortly.

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The camera still hurts to hold, it's so bloody cold. But it still works. (Those are telephone lines, not a problem with the sensor.) Jackson, WY, -10, camera barely thawed.

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There are handwarmers that look like oldfashioned cigarette cases and run on solid fuel sticks. Put one inside your camera case.

 

A recipe for cold weather is to wear roomy fingerless mittens, with silk gloves inside. It is ideal to have loops on the mittens, buttoned to buttons sewn on or inside the parka sleeves. You can also have a tape running between the gloves, passing through both sleeves. This way you can quickly remove the mittens, while the thin gloves will allow you to operate the camera for a couple of minutes.

 

Learn breathing discipline. Breathing even in the vicinity of the finder eyepiece is disaster.

 

I heard of some people photographing in Siberia who cut insulating pads from the foam used for sleeping pads, and taped them to the backs of their Ms. Walking around with a camera frozen stuck to your nose is not much fun, even if the camera is a Leica.

 

When entering a warm room with a very cold camera, wipe condensation off it but DO NOT remove the baseplate until all of it has evaporated. Do not switch it on. If you expect to go out soon again, leave the camera outside, or seal it airtight in a plastic bag.

 

I have agitated for a large capacity battery pack to replace the baseplate in situations like this one. No one seemed to understand why. Now maybe some do understand.

 

At least, we do not have the old problem where you had to remember to hold the baseplate between your teeth, inside down, when changing film. Otherwise, dribble might collect and freeze on the baseplate, preventing us from replacing it ...

 

The old man from 60° N.

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Shooting in zero temps this week I couldn't prevent the diopter lens from misting. Cleaning didn't resolve it and also runs the risk of dropping and losing the lens.

 

Any solutions ? :confused:

Laser eye surgery?:p. Seriously: clean it with spit.
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When entering a warm room with a very cold camera, wipe condensation off it but DO NOT remove the baseplate until all of it has evaporated. Do not switch it on. If you expect to go out soon again, leave the camera outside, or seal it airtight in a plastic bag.

 

I've read other recommendations to put the camera in a sealed plastic bag before bringing it inside and letting condensation form on the bag rather than on the camera, and waiting until all is at room temp. Is this overkill in your opinion?

 

I was never this cautious with my film Ms, but maybe I was fortunate. Or are digital Ms more worrisome?

 

Jeff

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I don't know if I would call digital more worrysome than analog, since it keeps you out of a lot of possible trouble and errors that can occur with film. However, I do take precaitions since

electronics obviously are more fragile to heat, dust and humidity than the metal and glass parts in old M's. Nothing seem to stop the M9 from working even in -18C though (today) as long as batteries still delivers some power... here's some more winter pic's since taking pictures is what it's all about isn't it?

 

Winter light

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