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D3 beats M8 in this weeks AP Review


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The Digilux 3 has beaten the M8 in ratings terms in this week's Amateur Photographer review.

 

The D3 romped home with an 88% rating (M8 - 84% last week).

 

Angela Nicholson gave the camera a good review and one gets the feeling she enjoyed using it.

 

She had been less than complimentary about the D2 in spring 2004 - but appears to have warmed to the latest Digilux with a positive review.

 

Points against were sluggish AF, fixed display screen and noise at 1600 ASA.

 

John

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Don't forget the dingy viewfinder, and she wasn't ecstatic about having to do two operations to set manual shutter speeds above 1/1000th and below 1sec.

 

The problem with these kinds of ratings, as has been discussed recently on AP's own forums, is that there is no way of knowing how subjective they are to an individual reviewer's personal likes and dislikes, and how much weight is given to one aspect of a camera's performance by reviewer A where reviewer B might not deem it of such importance.

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Honestly i think some of the biggest factors when they do these kinds of reviews is cost. Be it conciously or not it always seems to creep in there when you compare A to B. We hear this all the time in regards to the M8 vs the 5D which personally is a bad comparision. To me it is like comparing apples to fruit cake there so different but I understand the comparisions

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Points against were sluggish AF,

 

Of course the M8 ended up on a lower rating: I have mine for a couple of weeks now and the AF has taken all that time to focus - it is still hunting. That is what I call sluggish:p

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Such reviews are meaningless. <snip>

 

When you think about these things, they truly *are* meaningless. 88% of what? Perfection? But wouldn't 'perfect' be infinitely good? 88% of what you would normally expect, so 88 percent is bad? Does this mean the D3 will outperform the M8 on an absolute basis? If everybody agrees there's a subjective element, how are they accounted for?

 

I once studied surveying and they made a big deal about the difference between accuracy and precision. If you had a yard stick, and knew your steps were 34 inches long, generally, then you'd need 105.88 steps to measure 100 yards. You could actually do that -- take 105 steps and then use the yardstick to get the .88, and you'd be extremely precise. Unfortunately, your method of measurement is so crude that you're nowhere near accurate -- you'd typically be a couple of yards off the actual distance. In surveying, this is recognized as a common and BAD error -- it's unethical to offer a degree of precision to a client that is completely misleading. That's what these ratings do. You get precisely 88% in a measuring system so bad that that there's no way to tell what it means. It's literally meaningless.

 

JC

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actually, D3 being a system camera absolutely should beat it

thats my assumption about how they measure things

im not sure i could suggest a better way of working really

i usually look at the images from tests, thats 55% of it for me :)

 

Riley

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I did my own personal review. On the MP.

At first it ended up quite low, 71%.

Then I realized it has no auto-focus, ( thanx Jaap for bringing it up )

But then again the unexpected happened;-(

 

A score of 104%, what does this mean?

Did I make a mistake in the calculation?

Is the camera realy outstanding and beats everything else on the market?

Or is it only a little bit better than expected?

 

Those who take serious interrested in the M8, would they care what a popular magazine writes about it?

Those who take the magazine's review for granted, are they the potential buyers?

 

Never before have I written a post with more questionmarks.

This may well be the reason I don't read these magazines.

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