ennjott Posted December 30, 2009 Share #141 Posted December 30, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I didn't know I was "old" at 32. =) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 30, 2009 Posted December 30, 2009 Hi ennjott, Take a look here Who would like an M 9 autofocus?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Vip Posted January 10, 2010 Author Share #142 Posted January 10, 2010 Who will buy an used M has to be trained to MANUAL: focus, exposure, predict the real image from a small overimposed frame in the viewfinder. This is not the frequent customer you can see in shops. Otherwise the selling % of Leica M should has a different impact on the market just because price is not so different for used Dig M than top class AF japan cameras. I am photographer since I was 12. I had Leica since I was 30 yrs old. Now I have 2 boys ( 23, and 19) and 1 girl ( 16). The grew up with Leica as an idol. But now..... The use my Dlux! Nobody want to even discuss about an M. Too slow complicate for them. Their generation want digital and AF. This a reality we can not change most of the young take picture with a cellular phone. If they taste an Leica quality with time they will discover the rest. I see them sometimes using my cameras , but for a shot, not more. I takes time an a bridge camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neli Posted January 10, 2010 Share #143 Posted January 10, 2010 hm, i just came back from a shoot where i went from reception hall (political dinner) 25°C to fireworks display (outside, for safety reasons i guess) -4°C and i don't know about others but my eyes where watering and where smearing (condensation on my eye lashes, which are long and beautiful says my wife) and it was exceedingly difficult to focus and a little blip around the focusing field would have been great. best cornelius I'm not even sure we disagree. Personally, I like the M rangefinder, and I wasn't advocating focus confirmation as delivering any usability benefit. My point was just that even with the M rangefinder system, an autofocus feature would require a true focus confirmation system. What we have with the M today is a fine focussing system, but not a true focus confirm feature, as would be required to control autofocus. You do make another good point, which is that a focus confirm system should have the pretty light flash superimposed on the viewfinder over the focus point (as is done in Canon dSLRs), so as not to require looking elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_R Posted January 15, 2010 Share #144 Posted January 15, 2010 Hi! I haven't read whole thread - forgive me. In my eyes - AF that would increase size and weight - is not necessary to M line. But what would be ABSOLUETLY useful for longer focals and for people with weaker eyes - is LV. Live View. You can observe on LCD magnified piece of the frame (not even necessarily center) and every slightest move of your hand when focusing. Quick and easy. That is sth that has been implemented in all u43 staff. That makes focusing with manual legacy lenses very easy and effective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 15, 2010 Share #145 Posted January 15, 2010 So you would prefer a CMos sensor? I would not.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vip Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share #146 Posted January 18, 2010 The point is not making an M more big ore more heavy. Is to have a focus aid. This can be LV as said, or with two leds giving a confirmation of the exact focus. I do not think this is impossible to be done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbaron Posted January 18, 2010 Share #147 Posted January 18, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) The point is not making an M more big ore more heavy. Is to have a focus aid. This can be LV as said, or with two leds giving a confirmation of the exact focus. I do not think this is impossible to be done. Why not make it yourself then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 18, 2010 Share #148 Posted January 18, 2010 I want a manual Canon 5D with an optical viewfinder and no mirror!! Canon!! Are you listening??!!?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike88 Posted January 18, 2010 Share #149 Posted January 18, 2010 A Digilux 2 comes close to an autofocus M. The IQ from it at ISO 100 is nothing short of spectacular from its 5MP sensor. If one still prefers an autofocus M, then Leica might try and go the way as Contax did with their AX model whereby the film plane moved instead. This method retained the use of all their original lens without any modifications (I think !). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vip Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share #150 Posted January 18, 2010 Why not make it yourself then? You will buy my opera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vip Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share #151 Posted January 18, 2010 I want a manual Canon 5D with an optical viewfinder and no mirror!! Canon!! Are you listening??!!?? I am listening! Is good to know that there is a space for different camera. You probably prefer a manual Canon 5D over an M9. Any way the vast majority of people is now asking and buying AF camera. So is not a non sense asking an focus aid not necessarily an AF on an high quality Leica at reasonable price ( not the same of a S2) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted January 19, 2010 Share #152 Posted January 19, 2010 I wouldn't mind as long as you can still use older lenses and they keep the rangefinder patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted January 19, 2010 Share #153 Posted January 19, 2010 I want a manual Canon 5D with an optical viewfinder and no mirror!! Canon!! Are you listening??!!?? and a retro design... silver metal, shutter speed dial and aperture rings... etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 19, 2010 Share #154 Posted January 19, 2010 Yes - and a CCD sensor, whilst we're at it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_R Posted January 21, 2010 Share #155 Posted January 21, 2010 Open Letter about future of digital RFs [Luminous Landscape]: An Open Letter to Leica No surprise - everybody who used G1, GH1 - understands benefits of LV and EVF with no-AF lenses! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vip Posted January 21, 2010 Author Share #156 Posted January 21, 2010 If people reading this thread takes the time to read the open letter to Leica in Luminous landscape they exactly express my opinion ( in a much better way) those thoughts are very important for every M fan. the link should be this ( I hope to do not have done mistakes) An Open Letter to Leicahttp://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/leica-open-letter.shtml Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted January 21, 2010 Share #157 Posted January 21, 2010 Read it. He does not speak for everyone. Thank God. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted January 21, 2010 Share #158 Posted January 21, 2010 Basically there is no real need for led confirmation for the excellent focusing mechanism within the Ms. However I (but it's only me) would love to be able to magnify somehow on the rangefinder patches for some extra precision, and this not all the times. This one could accomplish with the aid of some -say- removable optical magnifier glass. But this is not that incredibly important. More important are accurate and moving framelines, moving as one chooses one lens type and then another cam that changes the frame lines as he focuses. Why do you guys need led confirmation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 21, 2010 Share #159 Posted January 21, 2010 Because they don't have their viewfinders optimized by adding the correct diopter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted January 21, 2010 Share #160 Posted January 21, 2010 Read it. He does not speak for everyone. Thank God. Regards, Bill I'm with Bill... I don't like the ideas at all. People have been calling for the demise of rangefinders for 50 years. There are more new rangefinders available today then there was 20 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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