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Who will buy an used M has to be trained to MANUAL: focus, exposure, predict the real image from a small overimposed frame in the viewfinder.

This is not the frequent customer you can see in shops. Otherwise the selling % of Leica M should has a different impact on the market just because price is not so different for used Dig M than top class AF japan cameras.

I am photographer since I was 12. I had Leica since I was 30 yrs old. Now I have 2 boys ( 23, and 19) and 1 girl ( 16). The grew up with Leica as an idol. But now..... The use my Dlux!

Nobody want to even discuss about an M. Too slow complicate for them.

Their generation want digital and AF. This a reality we can not change most of the young take picture with a cellular phone. If they taste an Leica quality with time they will discover the rest. I see them sometimes using my cameras , but for a shot, not more. I takes time an a bridge camera.

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hm,

i just came back from a shoot where i went from reception hall (political dinner) 25°C to fireworks display (outside, for safety reasons i guess) -4°C and i don't know about others but my eyes where watering and where smearing (condensation on my eye lashes, which are long and beautiful says my wife) and it was exceedingly difficult to focus and a little blip around the focusing field would have been great.

 

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cornelius

 

I'm not even sure we disagree. Personally, I like the M rangefinder, and I wasn't advocating focus confirmation as delivering any usability benefit. My point was just that even with the M rangefinder system, an autofocus feature would require a true focus confirmation system. What we have with the M today is a fine focussing system, but not a true focus confirm feature, as would be required to control autofocus.

 

You do make another good point, which is that a focus confirm system should have the pretty light flash superimposed on the viewfinder over the focus point (as is done in Canon dSLRs), so as not to require looking elsewhere.

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Hi! I haven't read whole thread - forgive me.

 

In my eyes - AF that would increase size and weight - is not necessary to M line.

 

But what would be ABSOLUETLY useful for longer focals and for people with weaker eyes - is LV. Live View.

You can observe on LCD magnified piece of the frame (not even necessarily center) and every slightest move of your hand when focusing.

 

Quick and easy. That is sth that has been implemented in all u43 staff. That makes focusing with manual legacy lenses very easy and effective.

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The point is not making an M more big ore more heavy. Is to have a focus aid. This can be LV as said, or with two leds giving a confirmation of the exact focus. I do not think this is impossible to be done.

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A Digilux 2 comes close to an autofocus M. The IQ from it at ISO 100 is nothing short of spectacular from its 5MP sensor.

If one still prefers an autofocus M, then Leica might try and go the way as Contax did with their AX model whereby the film plane moved instead. This method retained the use of all their original lens without any modifications (I think !).

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I want a manual Canon 5D with an optical viewfinder and no mirror!! Canon!! Are you listening??!!??:rolleyes:

I am listening! Is good to know that there is a space for different camera. You probably prefer a manual Canon 5D over an M9.

Any way the vast majority of people is now asking and buying AF camera. So is not a non sense asking an focus aid not necessarily an AF on an high quality Leica at reasonable price ( not the same of a S2)

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If people reading this thread takes the time to read the open letter to Leica in Luminous landscape they exactly express my opinion ( in a much better way) those thoughts are very important for every M fan.

the link should be this ( I hope to do not have done mistakes)

An Open Letter to Leicahttp://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/leica-open-letter.shtml

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Basically there is no real need for led confirmation for the excellent focusing mechanism within the Ms. However I (but it's only me) would love to be able to magnify somehow on the rangefinder patches for some extra precision, and this not all the times. This one could accomplish with the aid of some -say- removable optical magnifier glass. But this is not that incredibly important. More important are accurate and moving framelines, moving as one chooses one lens type and then another cam that changes the frame lines as he focuses.

Why do you guys need led confirmation?

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Read it.

 

He does not speak for everyone.

 

Thank God.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

 

I'm with Bill... I don't like the ideas at all. People have been calling for the demise of rangefinders for 50 years. There are more new rangefinders available today then there was 20 years ago.

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