wlaidlaw Posted December 16, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 16, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was surprised not to see the M9 listed in the latest RAW update from Apple today. I checked on the Apple website to see if I had missed this and it had been on a previous update but only various P&S plus the M8 and M8-2 are listed as supported. Now I am aware that at least iPhoto and finder 'see' M9 files but would I be right in assuming that in particular Aperture, will not be able to take advantage of the embedded information on the M9 files, unless specific DNG support has been added. This would be similar to LR2.5, which can only see the embedded profile, if you have installed LR3 beta. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 Hi wlaidlaw, Take a look here M9 not in list of cameras in Apple RAW update. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jonoslack Posted December 16, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 16, 2009 I was surprised not to see the M9 listed in the latest RAW update from Apple today. I checked on the Apple website to see if I had missed this and it had been on a previous update but only various P&S plus the M8 and M8-2 are listed as supported. Now I am aware that at least iPhoto and finder 'see' M9 files but would I be right in assuming that in particular Aperture, will not be able to take advantage of the embedded information on the M9 files, unless specific DNG support has been added. This would be similar to LR2.5, which can only see the embedded profile, if you have installed LR3 beta. Wilson HI Wilson Aperture does a fine job with M9 files - drop 'boost' by 50% and increase red hue by 10% and you're cooking! (whatever the support issue might be). I have LR3 beta and Capture 1 5 pro, but I still prefer Aperture. all the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted December 16, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 16, 2009 On the other hand, the fact that they're still ignoring all the m4/3 cameras, the d-lux4, and anything else with lens corrections is tragic and irritating. One can only assume that they really don't want to be competing with lightroom. it's very sad. all the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJones Posted December 17, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 17, 2009 Apple - Aperture - Feedback I send them request for support about once a month for lx3 and dlux4. So far nothing but maybe if they get enough feedback it'll happen sooner/eventually. I can't imagine it not happening for M9 just takes some time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebelfocus Posted December 17, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 17, 2009 I was surprised not to see the M9 listed in the latest RAW update from Apple today. It doesn't surprise me. Apple makes a very half-hearted effort to support new cameras and this unreliable, unpredicatable support is one of the reasons I abandoned Aperture several years ago. The irony is that this niche player in the computer world is the least likely to support the niche players in the camera world. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Apple fan and I worked for the company in a senior role for over a decade. They do many things well but they just don't get it when it comes to photography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceflynn Posted December 17, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 17, 2009 Aperture has no support for any RAW file format that requires software correction for chromatic and spherical aberration. The users who post in the Apple Discussion Forums tend to see the lack of support for particular cameras (such as the Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 and Leica D-Lux 4) one model at a time, but there is a systematic problem with serious compact cameras, which did not exist when Aperture was introduced. I have never seen Apple engage in a slow-motion public relations trainwreck in any other area. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1846080&tstart=15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby Posted December 17, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 17, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) From what I've heard at the Leica Erlebnistage, Leica already sent M9 cameras to Apple, so a RAW update will come out eventually. Best regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted December 17, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 17, 2009 From what I've heard at the Leica Erlebnistage, Leica already sent M9 cameras to Apple, so a RAW update will come out eventually. Best regards, Michael Sounds like Steve is out taking photos with them rather than handing them over to the Aperture engineers. Don't blame him! Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted December 17, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 17, 2009 From what I've heard at the Leica Erlebnistage, Leica already sent M9 cameras to Apple, so a RAW update will come out eventually. Best regards, Michael HI Michael - I think they also have d-lux4 cameras. I'm with ceflynn - it's like a slow motion train wreck, and very sad - I still like it much better than Lightroom, but I'm increasingly wondering if they'll even carry on with it. I can see that there might be some technical difficulties with the corrections - but there is no excuse not to put in the colour profiles for the M9 - it can't be more than a few hours work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted December 17, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 17, 2009 I'm extremely fond of Apple, much like I am of Leica. They make exceptional products. But when I was evaluating Aperture vs. Lightroom a few years ago, one of the big factors in my decision to go with Adobe was that camera and profile updates in Aperture must await an OS X update. Even though Apple provides those os updates at reasonable intervals, they're still much more complicated and further apart than what Adobe has to do with Lightroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted December 17, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 17, 2009 I'm extremely fond of Apple, much like I am of Leica. They make exceptional products. But when I was evaluating Aperture vs. Lightroom a few years ago, one of the big factors in my decision to go with Adobe was that camera and profile updates in Aperture must await an OS X update. Even though Apple provides those os updates at reasonable intervals, they're still much more complicated and further apart than what Adobe has to do with Lightroom. HI Jeff Actually, that is not the case - they have just done updates for a number of cameras without the need for an os update. The trouble is that they don't do updates often enough, but they certainly don't need an os update to do them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwind Posted December 17, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 17, 2009 HI WilsonAperture does a fine job with M9 files - drop 'boost' by 50% and increase red hue by 10% and you're cooking! (whatever the support issue might be). I have LR3 beta and Capture 1 5 pro, but I still prefer Aperture. all the best Thank you so much for the tip on reducing boost! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted December 17, 2009 Share #13 Posted December 17, 2009 Thank you so much for the tip on reducing boost! Oh! thank you for thanking me Please to be of service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
holgerf Posted April 25, 2010 Share #14 Posted April 25, 2010 HI WilsonAperture does a fine job with M9 files - drop 'boost' by 50% and increase red hue by 10% and you're cooking! (whatever the support issue might be). I have LR3 beta and Capture 1 5 pro, but I still prefer Aperture. all the best Hi Jono, I just wanted to try out your hint but I’m not sure whether I understand it the right way. You probably mean the adjustments of the RAW fine tuning parameters which in standard mode are as follows: Boost = 1.00 Hue Boost = 0.50 Sharpening = 0.75 Edges = 0.52 Moire = 0.00 Radius = 4.00 I understand that you change your setting for Boost = 0.50 But what do you mean with "increase red hue by 10 %"? Confused Holger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aperture 2 Posted April 25, 2010 Share #15 Posted April 25, 2010 Apple included M9 RAW support - at least fo the OS - in the previous software update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manilius Posted April 25, 2010 Share #16 Posted April 25, 2010 RAW was updated for the M9 in the last update from Apple... Mac OS X v10.6: Digital camera RAW formats supported Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manicouagan1 Posted April 25, 2010 Share #17 Posted April 25, 2010 I just check my version of Aperture which I keep up to date. I'm running OS 10.6.3, Aperture 3.0.2 with Digital Camera Raw 3.0.2 and it supports my compressed and uncompressed DNG files from my M9 and uses the M9 RAW fine tuning settings. All is well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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