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Mikhael S

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Dear All,

 

I am about to buy an M9. Later next year I will have the funds for more lenses, but for the moment I will start with just a 35mm. Which of the following 3 would you recommend. Both size and quality are important for me.

 

1. Used 7 element pre-asph Summicron (made in Canada 1984)

2. New Summarit

3. New Voigtlander Color Skopar Pan II Pancake

 

The Summicron and the Summarit are similarly priced. The Summicron and the Voigtlander, I believe, are similarly sized (I would really prefer a smaller lens for carrying around).

 

Please could somebody tell me which is likely to be the best quality allround lens. Your help is very much appreciated.

 

Mikhael

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Dear All,

 

I am about to buy an M9. Later next year I will have the funds for more lenses, but for the moment I will start with just a 35mm. Which of the following 3 would you recommend. Both size and quality are important for me.

 

1. Used 7 element pre-asph Summicron (made in Canada 1984)

2. New Summarit

3. New Voigtlander Color Skopar Pan II Pancake

 

The Summicron and the Summarit are similarly priced. The Summicron and the Voigtlander, I believe, are similarly sized (I would really prefer a smaller lens for carrying around).

 

Please could somebody tell me which is likely to be the best quality allround lens. Your help is very much appreciated.

 

Mikhael

 

If 2.5 is fast enough for you, than the Summarit is probably the best all around choice assuming it is the only one that is coded. Otherwise, #1 is an alternative if you are a bokeh fan. #3 is small and sharp but did not like the aperture ring and build quality so much.

Note that I am currently experimenting with a 40mm Summicron on my M9. It probably has a lot of the characteristics of the pre-asph in a size smaller than the CV and half the price. Also, its FOV is a almost a perfect match for the 35mm framelines. But I need more time before having a definitive opinion, though I absolutely love the reduced size of this combo.

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Thank you for your quick replies. Can I ask what the implications of using an un-coded lens would be - ie option 1 or 3? Can one not find similar matches that will work with these lenses in the manual lens selection menu on the M9?

 

F2.5 is fine for me (i'm used to f4 lenses on a Mamiya 7), but my worry about the Summarit is the extra size of it...

 

Thank you

Mikhael

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Thank you for your quick replies. Can I ask what the implications of using an un-coded lens would be - ie option 1 or 3? Can one not find similar matches that will work with these lenses in the manual lens selection menu on the M9?

 

F2.5 is fine for me (i'm used to f4 lenses on a Mamiya 7), but my worry about the Summarit is the extra size of it...

 

Thank you

Mikhael

35mm or wider, it is recommended to use 6 bit detection. Obviously, if you plan to use one lens only, the manual selection menu will work fine with you. The issue is when you change lenses and forget to manually adapt afterwards.

As for size of the Summarit, if you also take into account its reduced weight, it is still one of the small packages available for the M9.

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Thanks again...

 

Size and image quality are more important to me then weight. Do you know how I could find out exact difference in length between the Summicron (can one find lens shades for them?) and the Summarit?

 

Thanks

Mikhael

There are no bad Leica lenses. The question is never the quality of a lens but the "fingerprint"or the way it draws, the bokeh, things like that. So could you define what you are looking for? As for size, I very much doubt that you would find much difference between the two, although I would think the Summarit might be a bit more advanced from an ergonomic point of view, better focus throw etc., but again this is a matter of personal preference.
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Thanks again...

 

Size and image quality are more important to me then weight. Do you know how I could find out exact difference in length between the Summicron (can one find lens shades for them?) and the Summarit?

 

Thanks

Mikhael

 

The exact specifications of the Summarit are available on the Leica website. But I think it is the smallest of the current Leica 35mm lenses available. I have one, and find it to be a real beauty of a lens. :)

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I've just bought the 35mm Summarit (for my M8) and my immediate impression is that it is a very good lens indeed and has higher flare resistance than my Summicron asph, or the other Summicrons that I have owned (v.1 and v.4). Personally I think that it would be the best option out of the 3 given. Without the hood its smaller than the asph and very similar in size to the older Summicrons.

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I've said it before - the Summarit 35 and 75 are spectacularly good, especially at their low prices. I have Luxes for the evenings or if I simply have to have shallow focus, but otherwise one or other of the Summarits stay on the camera.

 

Chris

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I had a 35mmF2.8 hung on my M6 for about 20 years. Rarely shifted up to a 90mmf2.8.

 

 

I ordered one lens for the M9:

35mm F2.0 ASPH

 

I'll think about another lens in a year or so [assuming the M9 shows up by then]

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I'd vote for the Summarit.

 

My first 35 was the CV pancake, a wonderful lens that made me fall in love with that focal length (this was on film). The bad news is that I fell so hard for it that I ended up buying the Summilux 35 ASPH.

 

Just so you know, my bias is clearly towards Leica glass. And I prefer buying new wherever possible.

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You mention the Mamiya 7. Are you hoping that the M9 image quality will surpass that of the Mamiya 7 and Sekkor optics? Just curious.

I have owned and worked with a long line of MF roll film cameras over the decades, including not a Mamiya 7, but a Mamiya 6, with its complement of lenses. It was a wonderful rig -- I even used it on a couple of backpacking voyages! But the M9 does beat it. Sorry about that, you film nostalgics -- but film has simply been overtaken and left behind.

 

The old man from the Age of the Zeiss Super Ikonta IV

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I suppose I should mention that I've had the CV 2.5 skopar for quite some time, and while it is not of the build quality of the Leica's, it is quite good. For the price, it may be worth getting just to have for a while, and you can then take your time and get what you really want. Just a though.

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I have owned and worked with a long line of MF roll film cameras over the decades, including not a Mamiya 7, but a Mamiya 6, with its complement of lenses. It was a wonderful rig -- I even used it on a couple of backpacking voyages! But the M9 does beat it.

As a Mamiya 7 and M9 user, I can only agree as far as total weight, convenience and handling, and high ISO application are concerned. As for resolution, tonality and dynamic range, the M9 is great... but the Mamiya 7 is better still, nostalgic or not. ;)

 

BTW, why wasn't the Zeiss ZM 35/2 Biogon considered in this discussion?

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BTW, why wasn't the Zeiss ZM 35/2 Biogon considered in this discussion?

 

Probably because it's not coded.

 

I have a 35mm Summarit, 35mm Summicron & 35mm Summilux. Value for money and performance you can't go wrong with the Summarit it's a great little lens. Speed aside, I prefer the Summarit it to the Summicron, it delivers lower contrast and creamier images.

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