wilfredo Posted December 12, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) My first experience with a photo printer was with the Epson 2200 when it was first introduced. I still have that printer, it's a dependable workhorse. Last year I purchased the Epson 2880 and I love the improved print quality, however, when using thicker paper such as Epson Velvet Fine Art paper, I get constant paper jams, and I can't tell you how much time I waste on this. It is to the point where I would like to ditch this printer and get something different. How do the Canon and HP printers compare in terms of image quality and ease of use? How do they compare in print quality? Cost of ink? Thanks, Wilfredo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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magd0328 Posted December 13, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 13, 2009 I don't have much experience with A3 size printers these days but I'm running both Canon and Epson printers. My main unit is an Epson 7900, which is somewhat on the large size. However, my feeling is that Canon wins for ease of use, but in terms of print quality at the very high end Epson are still the clear leaders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearoido Posted December 13, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 13, 2009 I don't print a lot. My HP B9180 sits unused for long periods. It has the amazing ability to monitor the print heads daily, and to clean them if necessary. The printers I had before were all Epson, and they plugged themselves, do to the long periods of inactivity. The prints I do get from the HP are very good. I use Hannemuhle fine art smooth and Harmon Baryta matte. You might want to decco Digital Photography at photo-i. There are forums and reviews of both cannon, epson, and hp. GaryO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted December 15, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted December 15, 2009 Today was one of those days. I spent one hour and six minutes with Epson Tech support and my 2880 printer is worse than ever, it simply seems to be stuck on JAM MODE if I feed it anything as thick as Velvet Fine Art paper or thicker. The tech guy told me that the paper sensor was very sensitive and it was better to load from the rear without the paper guide. That works sometimes but it is still problematic. I have come to the conclusion that this printer has a flawed sensor design. I wrote EPSON a letter today expressing my grief. BTW I just discovered that I was sent two wrong inks by Inkjetart.com. It was a while back. If anyone has an Epson 2400 printer I will gladly send them two ink cartridges ( light black and light cyan) for the cost of postage. Cotact me off line if you can use these? Like I said, it's been one of those days, and I have a show coming up, and virtually stuck without the proper printer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted December 15, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 15, 2009 Wilfredo... what are you going to get next? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted December 16, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted December 16, 2009 Wilfredo... what are you going to get next? That is a good question. Most of the comments I've read on the various forums point favorably towards the Epson 3800. But I'll have to wait and see how Epson responds to my letter. The 2880 in my experience has been a true lemon. I haven't read any complaints about the 2400 so maybe I'll take a look at that, but I doubt I will find one new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerryharwood Posted December 16, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 16, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wilfredo. see if you cna find a 2400- I have had mine 5 years, its brilliant- I even fried the daughterboard, had it repaired by epson and kept it because it is so good; it doesn't jam up any way, and i use 325 GSM papers, so I'm sure you would have no problems. Hope this helps somewhat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted December 16, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 16, 2009 Wilfredo-- Bite the bullet and get a 3800 or 3880 or whatever they're calling it. My 3800 is so much better than my old 2200 it's not even funny. Everything about it is improved, including paper handling and ink clogging (lack of clogs!). It will also let you print wider, which you'll appreciate. Just IMO--I still think those printers are the best buy from Epson if you don't need rolls... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted December 16, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted December 16, 2009 Wilfredo-- Bite the bullet and get a 3800 or 3880 or whatever they're calling it. My 3800 is so much better than my old 2200 it's not even funny. Everything about it is improved, including paper handling and ink clogging (lack of clogs!). It will also let you print wider, which you'll appreciate. Just IMO--I still think those printers are the best buy from Epson if you don't need rolls... Jerry and Jamie, I can see both your points. I would go for the 3800 in a heartbeat but my finances are slowing me down. I thought I was done with all the photo spending for the year. Maybe I can get a good deal on the 3800 since the 3880 has been introduced? I'll look around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted December 17, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 17, 2009 Jerry and Jamie, I can see both your points. I would go for the 3800 in a heartbeat but my finances are slowing me down. I thought I was done with all the photo spending for the year. Maybe I can get a good deal on the 3800 since the 3880 has been introduced? I'll look around. Yes, you should be able to get a deal on a 3800. It's well worth it IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicamann Posted January 4, 2010 Share #11 Posted January 4, 2010 Wilfredo..I hear ya man... my "large format Canon" printer was subjected to "sledge hammer therapy" last month after doing the same thing. As my wife said, this has been an ongoing feud between the printer and I for the last 4 years, its now recyclable scrap So where do that leave me, will I ever invest in a "large format " printer again?? Probably not, my local Custom Colour Labs does a great job and our colour profiles match perfectly. So now I bought a "cheapo" strictly for office use and now leave the image printing to a 3rd party...cheaper..less headaches. I also am in the process of setting up 3rd party printing through "Zenfolio".... I can't tell you yet what my experience is with them, its too soon. Lastly, its time for me to spend some time in the Darkroom with my B&W negs and make some REAL B&W silver prints. Cheers, JRM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted January 6, 2010 Author Share #12 Posted January 6, 2010 LOL Believe me, I would enjoy treating the 2880 to sledgehammer therapy. Epson made a great printer then added too much technology to it. The paper sensor is the problem and there is no manual overdrive. I guess they figured everyone using it was an idiot and the machine had to do all the thinking for you. Epson has agreed to refund a portion of the printer to me even though it is out of warranty, so the news is not as bad as it could be. They also offered to replace it, but I won't trust another 2880. Since the 3800 has gotten rave reviews I'm going to go for the 3880, it's pretty much the same printer. The 3800 has been discontinued and I can't find it any where. I just hope that Epson didn't decide to improve the paper sensors in the 3880 and I run up against the same problems. I enjoy printing and have a show coming up, hence I need a reliable exhibition quality printer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted January 7, 2010 Share #13 Posted January 7, 2010 I hope you enjoy it, Wilfredo! Let us know what you think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share #14 Posted January 16, 2010 Jamie, I'll be picking-up the 3880 on Saturday. I had to print the last few photographs for my show on Epson's Ultra Premium Presentation Paper, not my first choice but it sufficed. I'm eager to try out the new Epson 3880 and make bigger prints. I will keep you posted. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share #15 Posted January 17, 2010 I got the 3880 printer today, and printed my first prints on it. Loading thicker papers such as Epson's Velvet Fine Art and Ultra Smooth Fine Art Paper was not a problem. It took me a few tries with the Ultra Smooth Fine Art paper but I think it's just a matter of getting used to loading it. It's a relief to be up and running again, I love the bigger size print, and the image quality is what I was hoping for. It's also a big relief not to be changing the Black inks. BTW One of the prints I made was from an M8 file. That camera has the best 10 megapixel resolution to be had :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted January 17, 2010 Share #16 Posted January 17, 2010 I got the 3880 printer today, and printed my first prints on it. Loading thicker papers such as Epson's Velvet Fine Art and Ultra Smooth Fine Art Paper was not a problem. It took me a few tries with the Ultra Smooth Fine Art paper but I think it's just a matter of getting used to loading it. It's a relief to be up and running again, I love the bigger size print, and the image quality is what I was hoping for. It's also a big relief not to be changing the Black inks. BTW One of the prints I made was from an M8 file. That camera has the best 10 megapixel resolution to be had :-) Glad you like it so far Wilfredo! I'm currently printing a bunch of 13 * 19 BW prints from scanned M6 negs on Velvet Fine Art on my 3800. They look fabulous, IMO. (and yes, the M8 still surprises me with just how wonderful the prints are. I'm sure the M9 would too ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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