John in Japan Posted December 6, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 6, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've had just enough issues with my M8 to dig that deep into my pockets again. However, that being said I have to say without a doubt though that some of my favorite photos of all time have been taken with my M8. I go through phases with cameras and have an awful lot of them. Been playing lately with a Nikon D40. Small, light, not the end of the world if I drop it or it bounces around in the bicycle rack bag. But, I broke out the M8 again this morning and took a bike ride to the local park here in Iwakuni Japan. Not sure what it is about the M8 (and Summicron 50mm) but there's a lot of synergy there. So I'll probably never get an M9 but I'll also probably never ditch my M8. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 6, 2009 Posted December 6, 2009 Hi John in Japan, Take a look here No M9 for me. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
rod99 Posted December 10, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 10, 2009 I agree - unless you are planning to print up to A2 the M8 is perfect. Very nice pics, by the way. rod99 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicanut2 Posted December 10, 2009 Share #3 Posted December 10, 2009 Never Say Never, James Bond movie I think. Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_g_wolf ✝ Posted December 10, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 10, 2009 >> John: Really nor M 9 ?? Great shots ! You are bringing your M8 to VERY good use. But what you didn´t realize right now is: the M9 bug just cought you. You better never say no. On the M9 your 50 mm SUMMICRON is a real 50 mm SUMMICRON and not a cropped version of a splendid lens. Best regards GEORG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertW Posted December 10, 2009 Share #5 Posted December 10, 2009 Never Say Never, James Bond movie I think. Jan A quote from the actor Sean Connery who said he would never do another James Bond movie around 1971. So when he did a remake of one of his earlier films (Thunderball) 12 years later, it was cleverly entitled, "Never Say Never Again". If you are a Sean Connery fan, he's the best Bond in terms of interpreting Ian Flemings character from the JB books IMHO. The new guy Daniel Craig, does an excellent job of bringing back the raw Fleming character back. Ah, I've been on the waiting list for the M9 and recently decided, that the improvement over my upgraded M8 (shutter & framelines) with respect to noise and the "luxury" of making a 35mm lens a "35mm" lens is simply not enough to spit out the bucks as well. I also will never get the M9. :0) (That's my position today) But when the M10 comes around with improved High ISO low light capability and anti-dust sensor, I'll be there. Best Rob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 10, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 10, 2009 There is a tide in the affairs of men... Your M9 tide is still at an ebb. But remember King Canute - no man can outrun his fate.... As to the upgrade from the M8. I really am an M8 fan, as nobody here can doubt. And the improvements of the M9 over the M8, taken singly are all evolutionary rather than a giant lep. But all together they create a whole that is considerably more than the parts. The M9 is an adult camera. The M8, in comparison, is an adolescent, albeit a nice one, but a just promise for the full-grown man nonetheless. And the image quality of the M9 is clearly better.....(sorry to have to say so in this forum:o) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theendlesshouse Posted December 10, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wonderful photographs, wonderful sculpture, both cameras are merely tools for the photographer to master, flaws and all, a good photographer compensates without excuse, after all it is the photographers eye that is most important. Leica's arbitrary price increases need to be capped, they need to create a camera with an upgradeable sensor - a perfectly feasible scenario; at that point I might consider believing their spin and buy a digital M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 10, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 10, 2009 Which arbitrary price increases here? The original M8 cost me 4192 Euro, the M8.2 with a few expensive extras (which, I agree, many could have done without) 5000 Euro, and de M9 came in at 5500 Euro, which was way below everybody's expectations and certainly fears. It will remain the same next year. So? And an upgradebla sensor? That means sensor and all electronics - the upgrade would cost more than the camera. It would be cheaper just to exchange the flash shoe with the number on the new camera... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmk60 Posted December 10, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 10, 2009 As some said "Never say never". I would say "Always say maybe (maybe or maybe not". I am saying "No" to digital cameras now but maybe I will change my attitude when a M10 come out in the future. M10? Maybe.. Enjoy in Japan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicanut2 Posted December 11, 2009 Share #10 Posted December 11, 2009 Never say Never, Yes I am a Bond fan and a fan of most action flicks. Blow something up have a hot lady in a tiny bathing suit whats not to like. I never thought I would upgrade from my MP but I did. Then said never again well got the M8.2, Never Say Never both MP and M8.2 are gone and most of my lenses as I wait and wait and wait for the M9 I wana say this is it but I can't. Hooked Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamriman Posted December 12, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 12, 2009 Never say Never, Yes I am a Bond fan and a fan of most action flicks. Blow something up have a hot lady in a tiny bathing suit whats not to like.I never thought I would upgrade from my MP but I did. Then said never again well got the M8.2, Never Say Never both MP and M8.2 are gone and most of my lenses as I wait and wait and wait for the M9 I wana say this is it but I can't. Hooked Jan You broke the golden rule. Never sell glass to buy a camera which is sure to devalue over time. Sell the MP or children but keep the glass!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rod99 Posted December 12, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 12, 2009 Let's put it this way. Got M8. Cost me £3000 to upgrade to M9. M9 will let my 35 cron be a 35 cron. Do I really want to produce A2+ prints? Hmmm. The way technology is going, within 18 months/2 years there will be a mega-mega pixel body for my leitz glass. Hmmm. Decisions, decisions. On the other hand I could be pushing up the daisies in 18 months. Decisions, decisions. Aaaaggghhhh!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted December 12, 2009 Share #13 Posted December 12, 2009 I love all this talk about "a 50 is a 50, and a 35 is a 35" on the M9, and so on. Over on TheOnlinePhotographer Mike Chambers once did a test to see if people could actually spot which lens had been used to capture an image, and the vast majority (I believe I remember correctly), were totally unable to identify the focal length. The truth is that the photographer chooses the composition of his or her image, and in most cases the actual focal length of the lens being used is either irrelevant or compensated by a few paces back or forth. Anyone willing to show me direct photographic proof of the opposite being true is very welcome to post in the thread below... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fursan Posted December 13, 2009 Share #14 Posted December 13, 2009 I have to agree with Plasticman on this one. I too don't get this business of a ' 35 will be a 35 again '. It is my ' vision' ( bad as it may be ), that helps me take my photographs. ' Vision' physically and in the photographic sense. My favorite lens on my M8 is the 50mm. I step back or forward as the case maybe. It is neither right nor wrong..it is just the way it is. I guess my ' standard ' lens is the fov offered by the 50mm on an M8. Perfect for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted December 13, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 13, 2009 No M9 for me either, do not feel the urge at all to get one. As Fursan says, it is the eye to make the picture, not the camera. The camera is just a tool, whether it is full frame or not. The 50 is my preferred lens as well on the M8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
epand56 Posted December 13, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 13, 2009 I love all this talk about "a 50 is a 50, and a 35 is a 35" on the M9, and so on. Over on TheOnlinePhotographer Mike Chambers once did a test to see if people could actually spot which lens had been used to capture an image, and the vast majority (I believe I remember correctly), were totally unable to identify the focal length. The truth is that the photographer chooses the composition of his or her image, and in most cases the actual focal length of the lens being used is either irrelevant or compensated by a few paces back or forth. Anyone willing to show me direct photographic proof of the opposite being true is very welcome to post in the thread below... Perfectly agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted December 13, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 13, 2009 I have to agree with Plasticman on this one. I too don't get this business of a ' 35 will be a 35 again '. It is my ' vision' ( bad as it may be ), that helps me take my photographs. ' Vision' physically and in the photographic sense. My favorite lens on my M8 is the 50mm. I step back or forward as the case maybe. It is neither right nor wrong..it is just the way it is. I guess my ' standard ' lens is the fov offered by the 50mm on an M8. Perfect for me. I see it the same way. And I'm very happy with the M8. No plans selling it. It has been a considerable investment and I just want to spend such an amount of money every two years. The M8 brought digital - compared to that the difference between the M8 and the M9 is negligible. Cheers Ivo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 14, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 14, 2009 I love all this talk about "a 50 is a 50, and a 35 is a 35" on the M9, and so on. Over on TheOnlinePhotographer Mike Chambers once did a test to see if people could actually spot which lens had been used to capture an image, and the vast majority (I believe I remember correctly), were totally unable to identify the focal length. The truth is that the photographer chooses the composition of his or her image, and in most cases the actual focal length of the lens being used is either irrelevant or compensated by a few paces back or forth. Anyone willing to show me direct photographic proof of the opposite being true is very welcome to post in the thread below... Missing the point, Mani. The larger sensor format requires less enlargement, thus reducing niggles like noise. Another difference is the colour rendition because of the different sensor setup plus the far more stable files. You may recall that I have been comparing the DMR favorably to the M8 a number of times, it is caused by uncompressed 16 bit output. There can be no doubt about my partisanship of the M8, but imo the M9 is worth its money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
norm_snyder Posted December 14, 2009 Share #19 Posted December 14, 2009 I loved the look of my v4 35mm Summicron on my M6, and different field of view or not, it has a look on the M8 that is pleasing to me. As much as I like the 28mm Summicron [with it's field of view comparable to the 35 on FF], I find that the 35 Summicron gets used more and more. It has nothing to do with the size of the frame, and everything to do with how the lens draws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted December 14, 2009 Share #20 Posted December 14, 2009 Missing the point, Mani. The larger sensor format requires less enlargement, thus reducing niggles like noise. Another difference is the colour rendition because of the different sensor setup plus the far more stable files. You may recall that I have been comparing the DMR favorably to the M8 a number of times, it is caused by uncompressed 16 bit output. There can be no doubt about my partisanship of the M8, but imo the M9 is worth its money. Jaap - I don't think I'm missing the point. The other factors you mention now are also worthy of consideration for those that want an M9, but I was only talking about the endless repetition of the "at last my 50 is a 50 again" mantra. I don't generally have 'noise niggles', and prefer the color from the M8, so these are non-issues for me. I'm not sure what you mean by "more stable files". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.