yanidel Posted November 22, 2009 Share #21 Posted November 22, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) 206, a grey one. It works flawlessly though so I could not care less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 22, 2009 Posted November 22, 2009 Hi yanidel, Take a look here Shutter actuation number of the first shot?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
scott kirkpatrick Posted November 22, 2009 Share #22 Posted November 22, 2009 There are other examples of shutter testing in manufacture showing up in the shutter activation count. I have a Hasselblad Xpan (yeah, film!) which is pretty highly automated, and shows a shutter count when you press one particular button while turning it on. It says in the manual to expect an initial shutter count of about 200. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted December 17, 2009 Share #23 Posted December 17, 2009 Where do you see this ID ? I imported my first set of pictures in lightroom, converting them to dng. I do not see any ID. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted December 18, 2009 Share #24 Posted December 18, 2009 Samir: See below for how the unique image ID shows up in Adobe Camera Raw, Lightroom's cousin. (A very early image, BTW - I'm up to about 4800 now). Just out of curiosity, since the M9 shoots DNG in the first place, why are you converting DNGs to DNGs? BTW - the first shot with my own M9 that I still have available was number 1000044 by regular notation - 112th shutter actuation. So presumably about 68 when I opened the box. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/104516-shutter-actuation-number-of-the-first-shot/?do=findComment&comment=1155217'>More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted December 18, 2009 Share #25 Posted December 18, 2009 Just out of curiosity, since the M9 shoots DNG in the first place, why are you converting DNGs to DNGs? I can't speak for Samir, but I shoot uncompressed DNG and let Lightroom apply lossless compression which results in 18-20 MB DNGs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoody Posted December 18, 2009 Share #26 Posted December 18, 2009 I am thinking of how to bring it home safely and avoid any bumping that may knock out the RF alignment.... Is the RF alignment THAT sensitive -- that a bumping the camera in a case could bring it out of alignment? That would shock me, but that's just because I'm not used to worrying about such things. If I have to be careful about bumping my M9 lest I have to send it in for repairs, then it becomes one of those "you don't own your stuff, your stuff owns you" situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 18, 2009 Share #27 Posted December 18, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) No it is not that sensitive and it needs an unlucky knock to get it out of alignment. Some vibrations are worse. There are a couple of explanations for the alignment getting off on new cameras. One is that the isolating grease between the connecting little steel balls (put there to prevent electrolytic corrosion to the light metal body) settles in a bit, the other is that the locking glue put on the adjustment points shrinks a bit when hardening, with vibrations influencing the process a bit. Anyway, it happened to me and Leica corrected the problem within a few days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted December 18, 2009 Share #28 Posted December 18, 2009 Besides, I have just read the manual and it seems that the file name/ number (e.g. L100 0001) can be reset in the menu... Very interested to read this remark. I am still waiting for my M9 and when it arrives I would like the file numbering to continue the sequence previously established by my M8. I do not want two files with the same name floating around in my system, albeit far apart in different folders. I was wondering how to do this. Has anyone else been concerned about this and made the change as described in the manual? Cheers Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted December 18, 2009 Share #29 Posted December 18, 2009 Samir: See below for how the unique image ID shows up in Adobe Camera Raw, Lightroom's cousin. (A very early image, BTW - I'm up to about 4800 now). Just out of curiosity, since the M9 shoots DNG in the first place, why are you converting DNGs to DNGs? BTW - the first shot with my own M9 that I still have available was number 1000044 by regular notation - 112th shutter actuation. So presumably about 68 when I opened the box. Andy, I do this to get a smaller file. The dng file in lightroom is about 18-20 MB, compared to the DNG file out of the M9. I have not done any quality comparison, I understand the lightroom dng file retain the 16 bits and all the info in the LEICA DNG, at half the size : if there is no quality loss, a no-brainer for me (files open faster, take less space, etc ...). But if I am told I al losing in the process, I will certainly revisit this strategy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted December 18, 2009 Share #30 Posted December 18, 2009 Samir: See below for how the unique image ID shows up in Adobe Camera Raw, Lightroom's cousin. (A very early image, BTW - I'm up to about 4800 now). Just out of curiosity, since the M9 shoots DNG in the first place, why are you converting DNGs to DNGs? BTW - the first shot with my own M9 that I still have available was number 1000044 by regular notation - 112th shutter actuation. So presumably about 68 when I opened the box. Andy, this ID Info is not reported in lightroom (at least after converting from Leica DNG to Lightroom dng...). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted December 18, 2009 Share #31 Posted December 18, 2009 Ahhh, right. Making uncompressed DNGs smaller (although you might want to check the Digital Processing forum - apparently converting DNGs to dngs in LR also makes them unreadable to Capture One, in addition to - apparently - changing the EXIF data). Anyway - back on topic - in that case you could just shoot a random picture every so often and NOT convert it, and then read the original EXIF data, just as a "shutter actuation" check. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samir Jahjah Posted December 18, 2009 Share #32 Posted December 18, 2009 Ahhh, right. Making uncompressed DNGs smaller (although you might want to check the Digital Processing forum - apparently converting DNGs to dngs in LR also makes them unreadable to Capture One. Really...I will check this out...I thought that LR dng would be the Universal readable file format for the next 1000 years! Bad news! However Aperture can read the LR dng file. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby Posted December 19, 2009 Share #33 Posted December 19, 2009 1st shot here was hex 5d... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted December 19, 2009 Share #34 Posted December 19, 2009 Does that mean your camera shutter was tested by one of Canon's spies inside Leica? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby Posted December 19, 2009 Share #35 Posted December 19, 2009 Does that mean your camera shutter was tested by one of Canon's spies inside Leica? On the contrary: it is a planned provocation: they only tested it until 5c, so that the first shot at customer's hand would be the magical 5d. When thinking about it: with that shutter history, I should have sold it on eBay... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted December 19, 2009 Share #36 Posted December 19, 2009 Very interested to read this remark. I am still waiting for my M9 and when it arrives I would like the file numbering to continue the sequence previously established by my M8. I do not want two files with the same name floating around in my system, albeit far apart in different folders. I was wondering how to do this. Has anyone else been concerned about this and made the change as described in the manual? Cheers Robert You can set your first M9 exposure to be renumbered right where the M8 left off, but an even simpler way to get unique file names is to format your chip in the M9, put the chip back in a reader attached to your PC or Mac and rename the directory which was "LEICA100" to be ":LEICA200". Now put the chip back in the M9 and use the menu to go to "Folder Mangement" and select the option "set new folder" . From that point on, all of your files will be numbered L200xxxx, starting at 2000001. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d2mini Posted December 23, 2009 Share #37 Posted December 23, 2009 Hi, my new M9 has a unique image ID of A3 which seems to convert to a decimal of 163 on the first image taken. So the camera came with 162 shutter actuations, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 23, 2009 Share #38 Posted December 23, 2009 You can set your first M9 exposure to be renumbered right where the M8 left off, but an even simpler way to get unique file names is to format your chip in the M9, put the chip back in a reader attached to your PC or Mac and rename the directory which was "LEICA100" to be ":LEICA200". Now put the chip back in the M9 and use the menu to go to "Folder Mangement" and select the option "set new folder" . From that point on, all of your files will be numbered L200xxxx, starting at 2000001. scott I use Image Ingester Pro, which automatically adds an unique number and/or date to the file name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_w Posted December 23, 2009 Share #39 Posted December 23, 2009 You can set your first M9 exposure to be renumbered right where the M8 left off, but an even simpler way to get unique file names is to format your chip in the M9, put the chip back in a reader attached to your PC or Mac and rename the directory which was "LEICA100" to be ":LEICA200". Now put the chip back in the M9 and use the menu to go to "Folder Mangement" and select the option "set new folder" . From that point on, all of your files will be numbered L200xxxx, starting at 2000001. scott Thanks Scott, and also Jaap, for responding to my question. When I started filing digital images in 2006 I had a PC program that would do the same job as Image Ingester and I have always been mildly surprised that Lightroom does not offer the same function (... or does it, doh? ) Since I really only want to keep M9 and M8 files from clashing by making a one-time change, Scott's suggestion is excellent for my purposes. Now all I need is the M9 to turn up (so ... over to Rick Dykstra's thread for my daily prayer reading!) Cheers Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted December 23, 2009 Share #40 Posted December 23, 2009 I use Image Ingester Pro, which automatically adds an unique number and/or date to the file name. I use Lightroom to automatically rename the file when importing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.