jhluxton Posted November 28, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 28, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) UK's Amateur Photographer magazine has an 8 page review of the M8 this week. Score is 84% John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 28, 2006 Posted November 28, 2006 Hi jhluxton, Take a look here M8 - Amateur Photographer Review. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
marknorton Posted November 28, 2006 Share #2 Posted November 28, 2006 For a company with such a rich and proud heritage, the words "Laughing Stock" come to mind... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted November 28, 2006 Share #3 Posted November 28, 2006 Amateurs! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 28, 2006 Share #4 Posted November 28, 2006 Isn't that the aptly named magazine that "discovered" the Red Blob artifact on the DMR sensor - an issue nobody ever heard of before or since? I still maintain it was a reflection of the Japanese flag the tester has hanging over his desk.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted November 28, 2006 Share #5 Posted November 28, 2006 For a company with such a rich and proud heritage, the words "Laughing Stock" come to mind... Mark Do you mean Amateur Photographer or Leica? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted November 28, 2006 Share #6 Posted November 28, 2006 For the record, I would apply the description to neither of them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 28, 2006 Share #7 Posted November 28, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Isn't that the aptly named magazine that "discovered" the Red Blob artifact on the DMR sensor - an issue nobody ever heard of before or since? I still maintain it was a reflection of the Japanese flag the tester has hanging over his desk.... To be fair, AP have been very generous with the copy space to Leica over the last few years and are generally very Leica-friendly. The D-Lux 3 got 84% last week, BTW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted November 28, 2006 Share #8 Posted November 28, 2006 Hi, I have not seen the review, but in general the problem with reviews in magazines is that they make some mathematics instead of photography: photo quality 99% easy of use 95% material quality 98% price 5% So the camera ranking drops to the floor Then you compare to some very basic camera that cost US$150 and you get an overall score of 95%, several points better than a Leica. Camera review should not evaluate a camera in such a way, and reviewing a professional camera in an amateur magazine is surely interesting but not really useful. It is like reviewing a Bentley or a Rolls Royce in a "everybody's car magazine" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venkman Posted November 28, 2006 Share #9 Posted November 28, 2006 Is that the same mag that would charge me 9.95 pound sterling for a copy of the M8's instruction manual in their online shop? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 28, 2006 Share #10 Posted November 28, 2006 OK- I couldn't resist...it was a bit unfair. I will read the issue with interest. Problem is, British magazines usually take two weeks to cross the Channel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 28, 2006 Share #11 Posted November 28, 2006 Is that the same mag that would charge me 9.95 pound sterling for a copy of the M8's instruction manual in their online shop? They have an online shop? I didn't know that, do you have a link? Since you can download a PDF of the M8 manual free from Leica's web site I doubt that they'll have too many sales :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venkman Posted November 28, 2006 Share #12 Posted November 28, 2006 Exactly my point Steve Here ya go: Amateur Photographer Test Reports Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M'Ate Posted November 28, 2006 Share #13 Posted November 28, 2006 The score was quite reasonable under the current state of affairs. To be fair, would you recommend the M8 to someone looking for a top performing camera straight out of the box ?? Maybe soon, but not yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted November 28, 2006 Share #14 Posted November 28, 2006 UK's Amateur Photographer magazine has an 8 page review of the M8 this week. Score is 84% John What a travesty! He takes what is so obviously a camera built to exploit the kind of image quality you can only get by shooting in RAW format and then judges it almost entirely on its performance in producing JPEGs... Perhaps he really does believe that 'If you shoot in raw mode your life will be shorter...' (page 25, 4th column...) At least I got a lens brush for my £2.15...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_w_davies Posted November 28, 2006 Share #15 Posted November 28, 2006 Am I missing something here? I thought the camera got a good review. If you actually read the review the complaints relate to WB problems and the low quality of the jpegs. The reviewer acknowledges that the vast majority of shots taken will be in the raw format, with the jpegs used as a reference, so it isn't a great problem. I found the most interesting part was the vast superiority of images processed with C1 in comparison the Adobe Camera Raw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 28, 2006 Share #16 Posted November 28, 2006 The score was quite reasonable under the current state of affairs. To be fair' date=' would you recommend the M8 to someone looking for a top performing camera straight out of the box ?? Maybe soon, but not yet.[/quote'] No Leica M series ever was a "top perfoming camera "straight out of the box. All require the user to enter a learning curve and to realise that the camera is indeed a tool that must be mastered. That is completely different in philosophy of for instance the midrange DSLR market, which is aimed at performing as good as possible whilst taking an automated shortcut from the subject to the final print without passing through the brain of the user. Don't get me wrong, both approaches are valid and I suppose the automated road is the smoothest one commercially, it just happens I choose for the Leica option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arias Posted November 28, 2006 Share #17 Posted November 28, 2006 UK's Amateur Photographer magazine has an 8 page review of the M8 this week. Score is 84% John Didn't find it on the AP-Website. Only an 11 page comparison which contents an 1 (!) page preview of the M8. Could you post the link to the test mentioned above, please? Thanks H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunom Posted November 28, 2006 Share #18 Posted November 28, 2006 Only amateurs believe that such rankings and %'s matter Bruno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddawn Posted November 28, 2006 Share #19 Posted November 28, 2006 AP is one of the most rangefinder / Leica friendly photo mag around. I don't understand why some of u guys are knocking it. Despite the "amateur" title, I would advise against using any sort of filters (save those for the M8...) over ur eyes when reading it. It tells it (mostly) like it is, white is white and black is indeed, black I find the contents of AP is at least, more honest than the marketing literature that Leica puts out on the M8...... 16 bit raw, "ultimate digital camera" anyone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 28, 2006 Share #20 Posted November 28, 2006 Didn't find it on the AP-Website. Only an 11 page comparison which contents an 1 (!) page preview of the M8. Could you post the link to the test mentioned above, please?Thanks H. You'll have to buy the magazine - they don't put full reviews on the web for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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