jbgeach Posted October 30, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 30, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) So I know most people on other forums hate Ken Rockwell. Personally, I think he is funny but no one else is getting the joke. Anyway, he has a new set of pics up, in it he took several shots with both the m9 and the m3 with Velvia. I think it is very interesting. Here is the link http://kenrockwell.com/trips/2009-10/index.htm Anyway, I think I could get better colors out of the m9 and I was very impressed with how well it performed. This also shows why the m3 is still one of the best cameras around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 30, 2009 Posted October 30, 2009 Hi jbgeach, Take a look here m9 vs. m3 with velvia 50. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
chrism Posted October 31, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 31, 2009 "..only when the trip was almost over did I discover that I tended to get the best color for my kind of shots at ISO Pull 80 and using the JPGs.." How come you guys never told me that little secret? Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice9 Posted October 31, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 31, 2009 Say what we will about Ken's methods and madness, the man knows how to use a camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrice Posted October 31, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 31, 2009 Say what we will about Ken's methods and madness, the man knows how to use a camera. I'll say! I might have to reconsider my opinion of ol' krockwell. Some of the landscape shots are great! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryk34 Posted October 31, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 31, 2009 I was about to stop looking when I saw the photo of the boardwalk taken with a 135mm lens. Was he up on the roof or what? Finally,he made it to Yosemite. The landscapes with the 35mm Lux Asph were very good. Might have made Ansel Adams switch cameras and start shooting in color. It would be interesing to see these transformed into B&W. Never occurred to me that a big chunk of my M8 and someday M9 would go to an American company. I never bought any of Kodak's cameras, but lots of their film. I certainly would like to see them around in the 22nd century and way ahead of the technology of their competitors. Is the Kodak M9 sensor designed by them in the US, but manufactured in another country? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrice Posted October 31, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 31, 2009 Is the Kodak M9 sensor designed by them in the US, but manufactured in another country? I believe they are designed and fabricated at the Kodak plant in Rochester, NY. Some film is made in china, but I think all their high end CCD's and some films/paper are still made at Rochester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbgeach Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted October 31, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) BTW - I didn't realize that the comparison pics don't start until the next page here is a direct link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted October 31, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 31, 2009 I believe they are designed and fabricated at the Kodak plant in Rochester, NY. Some film is made in china, but I think all their high end CCD's and some films/paper are still made at Rochester. I think all Kodak film is now made in the US. Some is packaged in Mexico, but I don't think it's coated anywhere else but the US now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor AIS Posted October 31, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 31, 2009 The Leica M3 Rocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted October 31, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 31, 2009 Any film Leica is just a film holder. The images are done by the lenses, and the film. So the M3 should in fact have been tested with a collapsible Summicron, and Kodachrome I. Or maybe Kodak Super-XX. The ld man from the Age of Ceteris Paribus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbgeach Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share #11 Posted October 31, 2009 lars, I would disagree, I believe any film camera is just a film holder, however, a leica M is a film holder that accepts the best lenses in the world, Leica lenses. That is a huge difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor AIS Posted October 31, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 31, 2009 Well Im new to the lecia world but not new to photography. I really like the M system but to say it has the "best" lenses is a needless statement if you ask me. Best at what? If you need a 180 degree fish eye image Im thinking my Nikkor 8mm 2.8 AIS will be the best. If you want the fastest sharpest 300 2.0 IF ED than the Nikkor is your one and only choice. But I agree, for small discrete camera and lenses that do what there supposed to the Lecia M box and a 35 1.4 summilux is hard to beat. Saying that a camera is a box is true. It is but one link in a long line of the image chain. However, some boxes are more enjoyable to use than other's. And the glass available to the Lecia M system makes it a very desirable box. Gregory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbgeach Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted October 31, 2009 If you are comparing the leica lenses for the 35mm format, there is VERY, VERY little argument that the Leica lenses are the standard bearers. No, they do not go ultrawide or ultra long, but for 21, 28, 35, 50, 75 and 120 focal lengths, please show me a better lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted October 31, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 31, 2009 Nice pictures, but I think much more can be done with the DNGs than has been done here. If Ken doesn't like the blues, he can alter the Hue, Saturation, or Luminance of just the blues (or reds, or yellows, etc) in either LR or ACR. White Balance is really just the start here. And, if he finds some magic "Velvia 50" look, it can be saved as a preset and applied to all quite easily. And Brightness and Contrast are a poor excuse for a good tone curve... As I said, some of the photos are quite nice. And while Velvia 50 can be good for some shots, I'll take the flexibility of the M9's DNGs any day. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyejockey Posted October 31, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 31, 2009 I think all Kodak film is now made in the US. Some is packaged in Mexico, but I don't think it's coated anywhere else but the US now. As a very long time customer of Kodak's in the world of cinematography I was told quite clearly that the only film Kodak now manufactures in the USA is for the Motion Picture Division which is profitable and more than holding its own against digital invaders. All other film is now manufactured outside the USA, probably in China. Best, Stephen Goldblatt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted October 31, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 31, 2009 As a very long time customer of Kodak's in the world of cinematography I was told quite clearly that the only film Kodak now manufactures in the USA is for the Motion Picture Division which is profitable and more than holding its own against digital invaders. All other film is now manufactured outside the USA, probably in China. Might be true. Not what I've heard from different people, ex-Kodak people, etc. Nor is it what it says on the boxes: "Made in the USA, finished in Mexico" which jives with what I've heard. As in, the film is coated here, then sent down to Mexico to stick in cans or box or something. Makes sense to me. Unfortunately world-wide film consumption is not at the level where Kodak really needs to have multiple plants making the stuff. I'm guessing it's more efficient to keep it all in one place and switch between products. But you could certainly be correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georg Posted October 31, 2009 Share #17 Posted October 31, 2009 @tgray Your information is correct, also regular film (even the newest Ektar) is coated in Rochester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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