JHAG Posted October 28, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) # 2 : 4.8.3 # 1 : 5 Same processing. Will she fly ? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/101818-c1-pro-5-just-a-test-interesting%E2%80%A6/?do=findComment&comment=1093824'>More sharing options...
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chuckw Posted October 28, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 28, 2009 That is really a significant difference. While C1 V5 appears to have some really handy enhancements I would not have expected differences like this on such a basic level. Whoops, you edited the comparison image out of your original post so now my comment doesn't make much sense! What happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted October 28, 2009 I suspect more CS3 Auto levels (applied to both) to be the culprit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 28, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 28, 2009 I have just been looking at some of the tutorials and there look to be a few great new tools in V5 - SkinTone etc. The bad news is that the LE version of C1 given to us with M8's is not eligible for a free upgrade to C1 V5 or for the upgrade price to C1 V5 pro. It is full price of €299 rather than €229. Still worth it I think. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted October 29, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 29, 2009 I suspect more CS3 Auto levels (applied to both) to be the culprit. Um. yeah. So the output isn't from C1 at all, right? You can't compare outputs like that with auto levels applied. This says more about PS than C1, I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted October 29, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 29, 2009 I have just been looking at some of the tutorials and there look to be a few great new tools in V5 - SkinTone etc. The bad news is that the LE version of C1 given to us with M8's is not eligible for a free upgrade to C1 V5 or for the upgrade price to C1 V5 pro. It is full price of €299 rather than €229. Still worth it I think. Wilson Wilson, I just upgraded my LE version to the Pro for US$299. Dunno if that's comparable to your euro quotes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted October 29, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Um. yeah. So the output isn't from C1 at all, right? You can't compare outputs like that with auto levels applied. This says more about PS than C1, I'm afraid. Output from C1, auto opened in CS3, Autolevels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted October 29, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 29, 2009 Output from C1, auto opened in CS3, Autolevels. Right--a completely useless comparison. Small changes in output levels at the C1 level may change the look. But honestly, are you positive you didn't change the way PS does its auto-levels / auto colour? It sure looks like auto colour on the bottom one to me. You didn't like, submit a JPEG one time and a TIFF the other time? Different ICC profiles maybe? Maybe using C1 v5 perceptual output instead of relative colorimetric? Something isn't right with PS there. I've output three full weddings now from C1 V5 based on V4 settings and the colour differences, while there (due to profile tweaks), just aren't that great. It has nothing to do with C1, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coup de foudre Posted October 29, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 29, 2009 i agree with Jamie. there really shouldn't be that vast a difference. definitely CS3 (from my own experience of using the two together). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted October 29, 2009 Right--a completely useless comparison. Small changes in output levels at the C1 level may change the look. But honestly, are you positive you didn't change the way PS does its auto-levels / auto colour? It sure looks like auto colour on the bottom one to me. You didn't like, submit a JPEG one time and a TIFF the other time? Different ICC profiles maybe? Maybe using C1 v5 perceptual output instead of relative colorimetric? Something isn't right with PS there. I've output three full weddings now from C1 V5 based on V4 settings and the colour differences, while there (due to profile tweaks), just aren't that great. It has nothing to do with C1, IMO. I usually don't do Auto Levels. Both are original TIFF, Autolevels applied, then turned to JPEG in CS3. One got that blueish cast. Don't know why. Reason I posted it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted October 29, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 29, 2009 I usually don't do Auto Levels. Both are original TIFF, Autolevels applied, then turned to JPEG in CS3.One got that blueish cast. Don't know why. Reason I posted it here. Why not just output them from C1 with exactly the same settings? You're positive you didn't tweak the "per-channel" curves or levels control in C1 V5? They don't show if you click back to RGB and they won't be applied in V4)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 29, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 29, 2009 Wilson, I just upgraded my LE version to the Pro for US$299. Dunno if that's comparable to your euro quotes. Bill, The European upgrade process would not accept my LE serial number. Maybe because this was originally issued for version 3.7. I have another serial number from a San Disk promo copy and I will try this. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted October 29, 2009 Why not just output them from C1 with exactly the same settings? You're positive you didn't tweak the "per-channel" curves or levels control in C1 V5? They don't show if you click back to RGB and they won't be applied in V4)... Positive, unless Gimini Cricket nudged my elbow unbeknownst. If I have time I'll try to reproduce the thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted October 29, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 29, 2009 Positive, unless Gimini Cricket nudged my elbow unbeknownst.If I have time I'll try to reproduce the thing. Try doing it without going to Photoshop IOW, how different is the output you're getting from different versions of C1. Something isn't adding up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted October 29, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 29, 2009 I have another serial number from a San Disk promo copy and I will try this. It won't work either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted October 29, 2009 Try doing it without going to Photoshop IOW, how different is the output you're getting from different versions of C1. Something isn't adding up! Will do, sir ! (mezza voce : Gimini, stop nagging me, will you ?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share #17 Posted October 29, 2009 It won't work either. Upgrade was free until 4.x.x. 5.x is not. Is there a price scheme for 4.x.x. owners ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 29, 2009 Share #18 Posted October 29, 2009 It won't work either. I just got this from Phase One in confirmation: Wilson, There is, unfortunatly no discount upgrade to Capture One 5 PRO from your current version (LE). If you would like PRO the best way is to buy it outright for the price of €299.00. Kind Regards, Phase One Support Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted October 29, 2009 Author Share #19 Posted October 29, 2009 It's a bit steep though. Unless I'm mistaking, I bought A2 and LR2 at upgrade prices, not full prices. C1 should be more lenient here. At 229, I was about to plunge. At 299, I'll wait to see LR3 pricing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 29, 2009 Share #20 Posted October 29, 2009 It's a bit steep though.Unless I'm mistaking, I bought A2 and LR2 at upgrade prices, not full prices. C1 should be more lenient here. At 229, I was about to plunge. At 299, I'll wait to see LR3 pricing. I agree. I will have a word with Jakub to see if they will do a deal for LE users to encourage them to upgrade to C1 V5 instead of using LR. They always seem nice people so they may see the logic of this. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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