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[Guest Stefan R.]

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[dwmackay]

Stefan,

 

Forgive me but I have seen a few posts from you that I do not understand. This one is a great example. As I have viewed all of the pictures on your web site many times, I know that you have tremendous skill with the camera. I would be happy to have any of those pictures hanging on my wall and your worst is far better than my best.

 

However, this looks... like an accident. As if, "oops, I bumped the shutter".

 

Am I too lacking in artistic appreciation to see the merrit or skill?

 

I do not mean to be overly critical, I just don't get it.

 

Doug M.

[joachimeh]

Stefan,

i consider this foto as a very unpolite, unfair nonsense.

[Guest Stefan R.]

Stefan,

 

Forgive me but I have seen a few posts from you that I do not understand. This one is a great example. As I have viewed all of the pictures on your web site many times, I know that you have tremendous skill with the camera. I would be happy to have any of those pictures hanging on my wall and your worst is far better than my best.

 

However, this looks... like an accident. As if, "oops, I bumped the shutter".

 

Am I too lacking in artistic appreciation to see the merrit or skill?

 

I do not mean to be overly critical, I just don't get it.

 

Doug M.

 

Doug, there is nothing to forgive, it is your opinion and I will respect it, you are free to express any feeling my pictures cause in you.

 

still I have a question, is it like "he is stefan rohner, he makes b/w" and when he does not make b/w it is not a good picture? to me the picture above works for example like this ones: it has also a nice humor:

 

 

[Guest Stefan R.]

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[Guest Stefan R.]

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Stefan,

i consider this foto as a very unpolite, unfair nonsense.

 

yes? could you explain my why? what is wrong with the picture?

[wizard]

I do not mean to be overly critical, I just don't get it.

 

Same with me, I don't get it either. Maybe Stefan thought there is more to this shot than meets the eye?

 

Andy

[joachimeh]

yes? could you explain my why? what is wrong with the picture?

 

question back to you: what is the content of this picture, what do you want to tell by it? For me the story might be outside the picture, and to show some disorganized backsides of ladies is poor humour.

[vic vic]

personally .. i do like this pic, the humor..

dont want to be "un-polite" but russian women have some unusual way to "walk" and "bend" and "sit" usually... again.. im talking about something "choreographic" not "s**"...

you will not see belgian woman walking like that even with super high shoes, or not french or more vulgar italian, or even less stylized spanish and even less ceremonized israely woman....

i feel russia in the walk.. in care and behaviour... and i love the cut and humor of it.. the sexy bit is cool too )

but

of course the pic lacks the intencity and the depth of what is seen in many stefan works..

 

stefan.. ya, man.. expectations.. there are not many who can change the style and mood and make it eassily accaptable.. david bowie, madona ----- "changes"... a more comprehensive and less random presentation of new body of work and new style makes it more accaptable though.....

[Guest Stefan R.]

question back to you: what is the content of this picture, what do you want to tell by it? For me the story might be outside the picture, and to show some disorganized backsides of ladies is poor humour.

 

I am not a picture explainer, just look at the picture and analyze yourself what you like and what you don't like, anything will be ok for me. so if you see poor humor thats ok, I have to live with it. still I would like to understand your "why".

[fotografr]

To me, the composition looks like chaos, not like it was thought out. I agree with the comment above that it seems the shutter was hit by accident. Maybe that's the point, but it doesn't work for me.

 

The b&w examples posted are a completely different matter. They do look thought out and are very effective.

[Guest Motivfindender]

Stefan,

i consider this foto as a very unpolite, unfair nonsense.

 

Joachim, I agree quite often with you,

but not this time.

 

I had a smile in my face, but not because of cheap humor, I think.

There is nothing disgusting at all.

 

Let me tell you the story that this picture tells to me:

A wedding is going to begin.

... or has ended - look at the emtpty bottle on the ground - was it from the former wedding in the same place? Or did the husband have to drink it to get more courage for the wedding to come?

 

The women are helping the bride to go ahead - one tries to solve a problem of the bride.

Each woman has it´s own dressing-style - it is interesting to look at that quite important difference. That tells lots of stories. To style yourself for a ceremony means you style yourself the best you can - but always along your personality and your origin, your "peer group" . And here, you see at least 4 persons who feel near the others, who share the help for the bride. So, this is the point who they are joining something.

But their style shows, that they are very, very different.

 

For a ceremony, you try to look the best possible, particuarly women. But every woman has styled herself completely different.

That will say also: The ceremony is the same - but they will also have completely different feelings about it, completely different remembering, emotions afterwards.

 

After the wedding, the party, it is over - everybody will go otherway back, the style of dressing shows that they live different. They will share perhaps not too much together adfter the wedding - as they did before?

 

But for some hours, some moments, they were close together, sort of a very special group. While they escorted the bride. For a moment, some hours, perhaps one day, they shared something together. Also the feeling to be attractive, though - as shown - every woman had it´s very special, personal interpretation for what is attractive.

 

Well, that is the story that I was told by the photo.

I can smell, see real life in this photo. It is a very vital photo.

 

And to be attracted as a man by women´s leg and bottoms and forms - is it a crime?

They are neither nude nor did Stefan take picture "upskirt" , did he?

 

Dirk

[Michael-IIIf]

I think Stefan has discovered Point & Shoot digital and he's having a laugh.

 

At who's expense is the question?

[dan_drabek]

I think Stefan has discovered Point & Shoot digital and he's having a laugh.

 

I think your right.

I suspect this one was submitted with tongue in cheek. (No pun intended)

DD

[dwmackay]

 

still I have a question, is it like "he is stefan rohner, he makes b/w" and when he does not make b/w it is not a good picture?

 

Stefan,

It is funny that you mention the B&W. Before posting my response, I actually took your image and converted it to B&W to see if I could give it more of the Stefan Rohner Signature look. I lack the skill to do it justice, but it did not seem to work for me even converted.

 

I guess it boils down to the intent of the image. This is just my opinion, but to me this picture in color seems more documentary than artistic. As a documentary image, I doubt it is one anyone will want. I cannot imagine the bride saying “Remember when we were walking on the sidewalk with trash & dirt in the gutter? And Mary leaned down for something? Wasn’t that great? Let’s get that picture Stefan took and look at it again.” As a documentary image it seems to hold no value. I would probably have deleted this image before it ever made it out of the camera. I suspect that with your skills however, there is some way to convert this into something more artistic. While it still may hold no intrinsic value for the bride, it might have artistic merit on its’ own. While Dirk has eloquently outlined a beautiful image of wedding day memories, a shot of an empty beer bottle in the dirty gutter does not evoke the same response from me. Perhaps a similar shot of empty bottles toppled on a table at the reception with blurred dancing in the background; that might do it. But not this one. If I tried to evoke a mood from this image it would be of carelessness for leaving the trash in the gutter for someone else to clean up. If you look carefully, it appears that Mary is leaving another empty behind.

 

I felt the same about the Hipshot Portrait; I just did not get it. Clearly you saw something in it or you would not have bothered to post it. However to me, I could not get past the blown highlights, the missing feet and the man sliced in half on the right. Again, I am not intending to be critical, just trying to understand what it is that you think makes them good. I am just an observer and love your work. It is just these posts made me wonder what there is about artistic interpretation that I do not understand.

 

Doug M.

[Guest Motivfindender]

While Dirk has eloquently outlined a beautiful image of wedding day memories, a shot of an empty beer bottle in the dirty gutter does not evoke the same response from me.

 

Doug,

I neither said this photo would be a documentary one nor good for conserving good memories. If you had this impression, this might be because my english is of minor quality and I obviously cannot express what I want to say.

For me, it is art. Not documentary, not as a gift for the bride, for me it is shot with a critical eye of a photographic artist.

 

regards

Dirk

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[dchatter]

I think Stefan has discovered Point & Shoot digital and he's having a laugh...

 

So I believe

[milsu]

question back to you: what is the content of this picture, what do you want to tell by it? For me the story might be outside the picture, and to show some disorganized backsides of ladies is poor humour.

Sorry, but I couldn't resist the temptation to show some organized backsides.

 

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Actually, I tried to picture them in front, but they have runaway as they saw me, so I had to punish them somehow.