Lightwrangler Posted December 27, 2012 Share #1 Posted December 27, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi there. Usually I clean my sensor with a speck remover, no problems until now. But there where 2 specks on the sensor I never really got rid of, so today i decided to do a wet cleaning to remove the stubborn dirt. I used Eclipse fluid and sensor swaps and that's how my sensor looks now (the first picture is the whole sensor, the second a 100% view on the worst destruction) Impossible to clean that of. Anybody has any suggestions? Mike Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/194808-sensor-cleaning-gone-seriously-wrong/?do=findComment&comment=2198851'>More sharing options...
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andyedward Posted December 27, 2012 Share #2 Posted December 27, 2012 Isnt there a layer of cover glass over the M9's sensor? I assume this mark is on the cover glass, which I believe can be replaced without the need for a new sensor. Perhaps other members of this forum can confirm this? No matter what it is, it appears that a trip to Solms is on the cards for your camera. I believe you can send it directly to them, which is quicker than going through a dealer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted December 27, 2012 Share #3 Posted December 27, 2012 Looks like fungus. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #4 Posted December 27, 2012 Must be very rapid growing fungus. The next screenshot shows how the exact same area of the sensor looked before and right after the cleaning. Mike Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/194808-sensor-cleaning-gone-seriously-wrong/?do=findComment&comment=2198904'>More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 27, 2012 Share #5 Posted December 27, 2012 Mike, I think we have seen this before posted on this forum. It looks like a complete disintegration of the material. If that's the case, Leica needs to replace the part. Good luck with the repair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted December 27, 2012 Share #6 Posted December 27, 2012 I initially thought it was the problem that has been reported here occasionally where a crystalline structure appears (presumably) under the sensor cover glass. I think Chris Tribble had this problem recently. However, in this case it looks less regular and more organic. Either way, the camera will need to go back to Solms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted December 27, 2012 Share #7 Posted December 27, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Folks are referring to this. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted December 27, 2012 Share #8 Posted December 27, 2012 and this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #9 Posted December 27, 2012 Thanks Jeff & Ian, I found those when searching the forum. It looks different although. I will contact Leica, see what they say. Very annoying. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 27, 2012 Share #10 Posted December 27, 2012 Mike, Can you discern whether that is some left behind material from your wet cleaning, like swap material, or a failure in the sensor/cover glass structure? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #11 Posted December 27, 2012 K-H., can't really tell by looking on the sensor. Tried the speck grabber afterwards - no change! So I think it must be the glass itself. But can't really be sure and I don't want to make things worse by rubbing around anymore. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 27, 2012 Share #12 Posted December 27, 2012 Eclipse2? If you use more than one or two drops it may leave a crystalline residue that can look like this, especially if it is an older bottle. Get the sensor cleaned professionally before you send it to Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted December 27, 2012 That one. It's called "Eclipse", not "Eclipse 2", whatever difference there may be. Where can I get a professional cleaning in munich? Leica does not seem to do it, they just send it to Solms. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Valdemar Posted December 27, 2012 Share #14 Posted December 27, 2012 Clean it with lighter fluid (naphtha) or the purest methanol you can find. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted December 27, 2012 Share #15 Posted December 27, 2012 Mike, I once made a somewhat similar looking mess when wet cleaning, but managed to clean it up with the orange blob: Amazon.com: Pentax 39357 Image Sensor Cleaning Kit O-ICK1 for Pentax Digital SLR Cameras: Electronics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted December 27, 2012 Clean it with lighter fluid (naphtha) or the purest methanol you can find. Naphta, wow. That was something new. It actually worked quite well and evaporated traceless - but the big stain still remained. No change! It must be something more serious in or on the sensor itself. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightwrangler Posted December 27, 2012 Author Share #17 Posted December 27, 2012 the orange blob: Thanks. I have this kind of speck remover. It's the one i usually take for cleaning. Tried it, but without success. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted December 27, 2012 Share #18 Posted December 27, 2012 Looks like Andromeda Strain... throw it in the incinerator fast. You might try Isopropyl Alcohol. I wouldn't look for anything too pure (you can't anyway) but, something like 70%. You might find that this will remove the crystals if, they are soluble in water. Don't be afraid to rub lightly with a sensor swab. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted December 27, 2012 Share #19 Posted December 27, 2012 This an accumulation of specks ..... an agglomeration in one area and some seperate ones ...... and your original large shot shows that these extend beyond the original cropped shot and are all identical... the specks in the agglomeration are linked by linear structures. They don't look like sctraches. They don't look typical of seperation of sensor cover glass from the sensor itself. Even a f13 the specks and marks a pretty miniscule and you have had to alter contrast or underexpose to make them visible I'd still favour some crystalline material welded to the surface. Is it visible and locatable to the naked eye ??? If so I would give it a good long soak with some of the solvents mentioned above and see if anything shifts ...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 27, 2012 Share #20 Posted December 27, 2012 But alcohol and/or water-based solvents. Not Naphta! That is a solvent for grease, not mineral deposits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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