BKK dan Posted July 12, 2011 Share #1 Posted July 12, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) How's the price development of the Titanium since launch? Is it like with a brand new car? The moment you ignite the engine for the first time the car's value drops substantially? Use the Titanium (shutter actuations), and the value drops? Worse even, signs of usage? Did other special limited editions' value increase over time? Can you compare modern (digital) limited editions with past ones (film)? A digital M9 looks so obsolete in a few years, from the technological point of view (sensor, LCD-screen, buffer, etc.) Is a Titanium here to be used? Looking forward to your inputs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mark2 Posted July 12, 2011 Share #2 Posted July 12, 2011 When m10 comes out with a better sensor nobody would want to pay so much for a titanium m9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted July 12, 2011 Share #3 Posted July 12, 2011 Digital cameras are not for investing. Read that again carefully, and repeat as necessary. Though I might say that for all cameras; but the situation being what it is... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 12, 2011 Share #4 Posted July 12, 2011 Forget about investiment, this doesn't apply to a camera like that : just to chat, imho the only "investiment grade" M9 I saw for sale were a pair of preproduction - beta testers' M9... if Leica will continue to exist as a prestige player, within some 10-15 years it could be appealing to have a "null series" of their first 24x36 Digital Camera M9 is a luxury camera, surely excellent to use, handle, exhibit... it will follow the normal economical lifecycle of such goods..... not differently, just as an example, from some luxury HiFi of B&O of 10-15 years ago... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
artspraken Posted July 12, 2011 Share #5 Posted July 12, 2011 Like Hermes model, Titanium is the price is a form of marketing. It will depreciate because it is digital. If you want an investment, buy mechanical. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 12, 2011 Share #6 Posted July 12, 2011 I've made no secret of the fact that I'm not exactly a fan of the M9Tit. Someone on the forum has one in general use (not including Seal, Leica gifted him a camera anyway) and reports that they dropped it and it suffered a small scratch. I think the same person also found they were having trouble with low light photography due to the lack of a cable release thread on the camera. So, IMHO, no the idea of the M9Tit wasn't to actually use it, it was a limited edition for those with enough disposbile income to buy one as a novelty or speculate on it becoming a sought after collectors camera - there are no doubt, Leica collectors out there who will have had to buy one or their collection would be incomplete. Possibly good business for Leica (assuming they didn't have to pay too much to Audi) and possibly a return for the collectors, in many years time, assuming the cameras have never been used, but true collectors don't really worry so much about resale value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKK dan Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted July 14, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Most of us are just plain jealous. Well, the only negative for me seems to be the not so good portability. Classic neck strap's gone and the holster is kind of screaming for attention - and doesn't look like the camera's really secure. So maybe the anti-portability condemns this beauty into showcases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraz Posted July 14, 2011 Share #8 Posted July 14, 2011 I think the finger strap works wonderfully when it comes to portability. I take mine on hikes and outdoor activities all the time and the finger strap is much more functional and to me feels better than the neck version in my regular M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKK dan Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share #9 Posted July 14, 2011 I think the finger strap works wonderfully when it comes to portability. I take mine on hikes and outdoor activities all the time and the finger strap is much more functional and to me feels better than the neck version in my regular M9. Meaning you have to hold the camera in/with your hand all the time. The neck strap sounds ideal for the idle hours. So you're using the holster? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticman Posted July 14, 2011 Share #10 Posted July 14, 2011 Most of us are just plain jealous. There may be a few things in this life I'm jealous about. The M9Ti is most definitely not one of them. Enjoy your preferences, and I'll enjoy mine thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 14, 2011 Share #11 Posted July 14, 2011 If you wish to assess something for its investment potential you need to forget about whether it appeals to you, forget whether its a camera or a corporate bond or a betting slip and judge against this sort of thing: 1) Your investment criteria. Most important here will be things like timescale, and your attitude to risk. (Remember the basics: high risk requires a high profit potential, because a lower profit potential is available with much less risk attached. And so on...) 2) All the alternative uses for that sum, judged over the timescale involved. Whether that is limited to investment alternatives is up to you. 3) How it fits with the rest of your investment portfolio. If you have low diversification, you must expect even higher returns to compensate for the concentration of risk, so if for example you have other expensive cameras in your collection, you need even higher returns than the market average. You may do these things rigourously or instinctively, but if you don't do them at all, you have to accept that you're probably not being serious about the investment angle and actually just want one. Bling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted July 14, 2011 Share #12 Posted July 14, 2011 Most of us are just plain jealous. Speak for yourself please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted July 14, 2011 Share #13 Posted July 14, 2011 +1 Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted July 14, 2011 Share #14 Posted July 14, 2011 I'm not jealous. I wouldn't mind twenty grand to spend on a camera and another ten on a lens. But, if I had that kind of money, I'd pay off (some of) my mortgage instead, rather than bling it about. Each to his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted July 14, 2011 Share #15 Posted July 14, 2011 Most of us are just plain jealous. Nope. I could buy one if I wanted to but I won't because I don't. Same applies to the M9 in general. I will wait for my M8 to pack in first & if/when that happens I might get a replacement M8. Nevertheless from the investment point of view Leica stuff in general is not bad, except that many of us prefer to think of it as something to use rather than mollycoddle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted July 14, 2011 Share #16 Posted July 14, 2011 If you want to invest in something, invest in glass. Bodies come and go, but good glass is forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 14, 2011 Share #17 Posted July 14, 2011 If you want to invest in something, invest in glass. Bodies come and go, but good glass is forever. I suspect that if you are a camera lover and decide to invest in cameras (or lenses) your investment judgement is being clouded by your enthusiasm. This makes you liable to become a bad investor. There are many reasons to buy something; because you want to use it, because you like the look of it, because you mistakenly think it will impress other people, because you like the feel of it against your skin..... But investing is not the same as buying, though it probably involves buying. Just like living is not the same thing as burping, though it involves burping. The idea of investing in cameras and lenses confuses me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted July 14, 2011 Share #18 Posted July 14, 2011 Well, I don't "invest" in anything other than the stock market - and that's even stupider than camera gear considering the economy today. I buy my cameras to use. However, a 2,8/90 Elmarit-M that I bought maybe a year or so ago as doubled in value. Can't say that for any of my stocks... Just sayin'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted July 14, 2011 Share #19 Posted July 14, 2011 Most of us are just plain jealous. . Many forum members could easily afford one. Try to figure out how much an ordinary M9 with eg 2 asph. Summiluxes, the 28mm and 75mm Summicrons and a 90 AA cost. Let me know in case you don't figure out what I'm trying to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter H Posted July 14, 2011 Share #20 Posted July 14, 2011 Well, I don't "invest" in anything other than the stock market - and that's even stupider than camera gear considering the economy today. I buy my cameras to use. However, a 2,8/90 Elmarit-M that I bought maybe a year or so ago as doubled in value. Can't say that for any of my stocks... Just sayin'. I have a 2.8/90 Elmarit M too. Beautiful lens. But I bought it to take pictures with, just like my cameras and lenses that have in total gone down in value since I bought them. Like you did, and like yours have, probably. Doesn't worry us though because they were not bought as a financial investment, so when one does go up let's not kid ourselves that it was a good investment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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