bill vann Posted May 28, 2007 Share #1 Posted May 28, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) After spending months assembling a really sweet kit I am considering throwing in the towel. took my last couple walkabuots before surgery weds. at best 6 at worst 16 weeks initial recovery essentiall doing nothing. i have such bad shakes from spinal trauma even 70% my tripod pics are ruined by shake. last word from the docs is it will stop the creeping paralysis below my waist reduce some pain but not affect the existing spinal damage. yes tripod and cable release is okay, but the fun is quickly leaving actually get more keepres from a panny lx2 with advanced stabilization. may go to the digilux 3 but have some reservation about 4/3 and 7mp although 7mp keepers are far better than 10mp no aa filter high res shake blurred crap. anyone making 16x20s from a digilux 3 may go back to slrs where IS is more available and more developed. very depressing. any ideas? bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chris_tribble Posted May 28, 2007 Share #2 Posted May 28, 2007 Ouch - can't advise but can really sympathise and hope that times get better... I try to remain an optimist - wait the 16 weeks and hey, things could be looking much better. Time to make decisions then? Solidarity... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Flood Posted May 28, 2007 Share #3 Posted May 28, 2007 I sympathize with you. Think positive that it will be 6 and not 16 weeks. I would rather have an M8 on a tripod with release than a lesser set-up. Why don’t you wait till you are recovered before abandoning your set-up. Don't rush to make a decision under stress. I wish you the best with your recovery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted May 28, 2007 Share #4 Posted May 28, 2007 Bill hope you get better soon, just wait it out and see what happens. Tripod and shutter release or timer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted May 28, 2007 Share #5 Posted May 28, 2007 Hi Bill, I'm really sorry to hear of your medical problems, but now is not the time to be worrying about such trivial matters, you'll have all the time in the world after your operation and have a better picture as to any improvement in your condition. Just enjoy the few remaining days where you can actually get out for a walk. My personal motto is "when live gives you a lemon, make lemonade". I'm sure you'll come through this better than you expect, then you'll be in better condition to enjoy the system you've put together even more. Warm regards, Eoin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted May 28, 2007 Share #6 Posted May 28, 2007 Bill, Get well!! - Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted May 28, 2007 Share #7 Posted May 28, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Bill Hope you're feeling better soon - don't rush to make any decisions about gear until later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sievers Posted May 28, 2007 Share #8 Posted May 28, 2007 I had a anterior cervical fusion of C4 and C5 several years ago. I was unable to type, play piano or guitar and I was stumbling in the street. The pain was numbing. I had the surgery and was up an about in 2 weeks. I am fuctioning fine now. I have two recomendations. Read Slawomir Rawicz'z book the Long Walk to put things in perspective. Then get the McKenzie back book after your surgery. Most important, don't give up. And who says shaken images are no good? Hang in there friend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bill vann Posted May 28, 2007 Author Share #10 Posted May 28, 2007 thanks all, up thoughts on a tough day , the other scary thing is i drop things, a lot and we know what this stuff costs. will likely wait it out and hope for the best. this is the 4th round of spinal neuro and orthopaedic surgeries and will essentially try to sort the spinal cord damage, minimize future damage then stabilize with a fusion of S1-L3 old military injuries degenerating. i am hopeful to be able to walk and reduce pain but have reasonable expectations. fwiw, i have faith, will and endurance so am at peace with whatever comes. just a really bad and painful day and know all too well what i'll be going through again. this board is always kind so sort of dumped on you all. thanks again kindly bill vann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill vann Posted May 28, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted May 28, 2007 but don't see this as a permanent style for me b Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted May 28, 2007 Share #12 Posted May 28, 2007 Dump on us anytime Bill , we all have our bad days and nice to vent sometimes. Just get better and that is all that really counts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted May 28, 2007 Share #13 Posted May 28, 2007 Hi Bill My story is a fusion at C4/C5 one at C5/C6 two fusions at L4/L5 and L5/S1 and finally a bilateral fusion and stabilization screws for both SI joints. I can't tell you how bad I was and now how good I am. I played golf with my wife yesterday (can't hit the ball long like I used to but more down the middle for sure) and live a pretty normal life. I also have hand tremors, some days bad and some days not so bad. I took advice from Jaap who said to buy the Leica tabletop tripod and use the legs up against the chest to stabilize the camera. This has worked really well for my general hand held photography and of course I use a tripod and cable release for my landscapes. So for sure don't give up now. Wait it out, do your rehab, focus (not backfocus!) on getting well and see what the next four months bring. You may be really pleasantly surprised. Thoughts and prayers Woody Spedden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingaloid Posted May 28, 2007 Share #14 Posted May 28, 2007 I am very sorry to hear about your situation, I hope it all goes well for you. If I may offer a small bit of advice, instead of giving up on the M8 I suggest the exact opposite, bring it into the hospital with you and make it a part of your recovery. There are many instances where photography has played a terrific role in physical and pyschological recovery programs. It's also very important in these periods to stay positive, and if photography is something that you love, it might just be the thing to keep you feeling good during some of the low periods. Best, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MP3 Posted May 28, 2007 Share #15 Posted May 28, 2007 Hi Bill, things can get better than we expect. Agree with Eoin. Wishing you get well sooner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted May 28, 2007 Share #16 Posted May 28, 2007 Hi Bill, I'm sorry to hear about your condition. If the LX2 is working fine, perhaps you should just stick with that for now and hold off on buying or selling anything for the time being. I found the D-Lux 3 to be an excellent little camera. If you drop the Panasonic, it will be unfortunate but perhaps less painful (to the wallet) than dropping a more expensive camera. In other words, with IS and a less expensive replacement cost, it might be the most relaxing camera to use for now and feeling relaxed can be good for one's photography. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken_tanaka Posted May 28, 2007 Share #17 Posted May 28, 2007 Bill: I also offer my best wishes for a quick and smooth recovery from this nasty episode. Like others, I also suggest deferring your decision until you've substantially recovered. Photographs are products of the mind more than of the body. Several months with little to do but think can have a profound effect on your perspective. You might emerge with no interest in photography whatsoever. Conversely you might recover with a very different perspective on how you want to use a camera, one that allows you to use your existing gear. You're probably not in the most stable frame of mind on the eve of this ordeal. Your camera kit will wait patiently for an eventual decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisC Posted May 28, 2007 Share #18 Posted May 28, 2007 Bill - I faced a similar camera decision as you many years ago, waiting and seeing how best you can manage seems good supportive advice. You can probably feel the very best wishes coming from forum members, you have my admiration as well as my sympathy and I hope the surgery brings you an improved quality of life. You have my best wishes too. ....................Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Mondello Posted May 28, 2007 Share #19 Posted May 28, 2007 Bill Hope you're feeling better soon - don't rush to make any decisions about gear until later I agree. Sure hope you are feeling better soon and getting better as well as feeling better. The Digilux3 is a handful, kinda big and chunky would that be better? The Panasonic L1 is quite similar and has just been reduced in price to where it is commonly available for around $1000 (vs $2500 for the Digilux 3) so you might want to pick up an L1 for the 6-16 weeks, but I wouldn't sell the M8 kit just yet either unless you need the cash. Hang in there -- and Hang in HERE too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tummydoc Posted May 28, 2007 Share #20 Posted May 28, 2007 First off I'm neither a neurologist nor an orthopaedist and I want to be clear that I'm not offering up any sort of medical opinion or advise. That said, at this point if it were me I'd wait and see what my condition was after recovery. Whether or not you still will need IS/VR/OIS is unknown at this point so why sell off your kit and go into the surgery on a pessimistic note? In addition to physical therapy I would speak with my physician about a course of occupational therapy. Perhaps an occupational therapist can tailor a programme toward finding a suitable way for you to minimise the effect of any residual tremor on using a camera. Even if you ultimately find you require a tripod and cable release, you'll only be doing what we all really ought to be doing, and your results may well be better than we who hand-hold most of the time. Best of cheer to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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