Mauribix Posted November 29, 2007 Share #1 Posted November 29, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) HI guys, I can't decide what to choose and why. So I ask your comments to these two lenses, and if you can some shots to compare. I tried a 50lux (latest pre-asph) with built-in telescopic hood, and I could almost fall in love with it, little, sharp, lovely bokeh, but i can't try the 50lux ASPH (actual version), what do you think about? p.s. the 50lux pre-asp remind me of the Nocti, am i mad? regards Maurizio MAURIZIO BEUCCI.com - Official web site Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest malland Posted November 29, 2007 Share #2 Posted November 29, 2007 HI guys,I can't decide what to choose and why. So I ask your comments to these two lenses, and if you can some shots to compare. I tried a 50lux (latest pre-asph) with built-in telescopic hood, ande I could almost fall in love with it, little, sharp, lovely bokeh, but i can't try the 50lux ASPH (actual version), what do you think about? p.s. the 50lux pre-asp remind me of the Nocti, am i mad?...[/url] I think most people will tell you that the ASPH is better, but my preference is the pre-ASP. With the latter you'll never the get the headache-inducing bokeh that you see in the first picture in the following thread: Leica and Rangefinders Forum: Took my MP to Galapagos - photo.net And here's one of my pictures with the pre-ASPH: I also prefer the pre-ASPH to the Noctilux. —Mitch/Paris Flickr: Photos from Mitch Alland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted November 29, 2007 Thanks Mitch, and thanks for this picture too! really fantastic moment and mood! thanks for sharing. a question: what about weight? is the pre-asph lighter or heavier than current version? did you compare them?or could you manage these lenses? regards Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted November 29, 2007 Share #4 Posted November 29, 2007 Thanks for the kind words. I don't have the data here, bur weight is not an issue with any Summilux-50 — they're not like the Noctilux. —Mitch/Paris Flickr: Photos from Mitch Alland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted November 29, 2007 Share #5 Posted November 29, 2007 Another vote for the Pre-asph, it's the 50 I use all the time. The Asph is sharper wide open --- in fact the 50 Lux Asph may the sharpest lens I've ever used period. But there is something special about the way the 50 pre-Lux paints that I just love... Pre-Lux at f2.8, ISO 640 (click for the large version): Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted November 29, 2007 Share #6 Posted November 29, 2007 Never used a Pre-ASPH 50Lux but I do own a current ASPH version and it is the lens I use the most. And watch some of the older 50Lux's, they can NOT be coded (It that is important to you). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted November 29, 2007 Share #7 Posted November 29, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) While the 50 preASPH can not match the resolution of the 50 ASPH wide open it's no slouch. It is by any standard an excellent performing lens and has a beautiful signature. Of the ASPH lenses I think only the 35/1.4 ASPH and the 28/2 ASPH manage to balance high resolution with a smoother tonality and softer OOF areas. This is all very subjective and some like the vibrating bokeh of the current 50. Personally my favorite of all the current Leica line up is the 35 Summilux and if Leica came out with a full frame camera I'd continue to use the 35 as my 50 and just crop the image to get the field of view -I like it that much. Here are some samples that show the bokeh of the 50/1.4 preASPH fairly clearly. Maybe someone has some shots wide open from the 50 ASPH. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/39120-lux50-asph-vs-lux50-before2004/?do=findComment&comment=414819'>More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 29, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted November 29, 2007 WOW! really nice pictures guys! they make me more uncertain about.... For what that concerns code, i think this model should be codable.... isn't it? another question: is one of the couple bigger?if so, which one? thanks a lot guys, and please share some more... i love these lenses more and more, but i love your shots even more... even with the crop factor, these lens (or maybe it's up to you) remind me of the "real" RF leica photography.... Dunno why.... but this is what i guess. Regards Maurizio Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/39120-lux50-asph-vs-lux50-before2004/?do=findComment&comment=414826'>More sharing options...
Shootist Posted November 29, 2007 Share #9 Posted November 29, 2007 Here's a few of the 50 ASPH wide open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted November 29, 2007 Share #10 Posted November 29, 2007 I can;t comment on the 50 asph as I have never owned one but the 50 pre asph is my favorite drawing lens on the M8. I acknowledge that the asph is sharper both in center and to the corners so if that is your priority go for that one. But the pre-asph draws with the old Leica magic and produces very unique images. However I would not go so far as to compare it to the Nocti. I am one of those who doesn't find the OOF areas of the Nocti to be wonderful and I certainly do for the 50 pre asph. YMMV Woody Spedden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted November 29, 2007 Share #11 Posted November 29, 2007 Oh, and one more really important point! The Pre-Asph version you want is the one you show a picture of, the one with the built-in sliding hood. The older versions with clip-on hoods only focus to 1 meter while the newer one with the built-in hood focuses to .7 meter. Doesn't sound like much, but makes a difference on many subjects... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted November 29, 2007 Share #12 Posted November 29, 2007 50 Lux ASPH wide open. It's a fantastic lens, mine will be even better when I get the backfocus fixed. I've never used the pre-asph, however I really dislike the older sliding hoods which don't lock into place, not sure if that's the case with the pre-asph, it was with my 50 'cron. (the asph hood 'locks' with a slight turn). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/39120-lux50-asph-vs-lux50-before2004/?do=findComment&comment=414890'>More sharing options...
DaveB Posted November 29, 2007 Share #13 Posted November 29, 2007 I love my 50mm Pre-Asph. It's my candid portrait lens. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/39120-lux50-asph-vs-lux50-before2004/?do=findComment&comment=414891'>More sharing options...
lct Posted November 29, 2007 Share #14 Posted November 29, 2007 I own both and i prefer the late pre-asph as well for its smoother fingerprint which is great for portait. It is perhaps my favourite Leica lens ever. But the asph is unbeatable if one need maximum sharpness at f/1.4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodyspedden Posted November 29, 2007 Share #15 Posted November 29, 2007 I can;t comment on the 50 asph as I have never owned one but the 50 pre asph is my favorite drawing lens on the M8. I acknowledge that the asph is sharper both in center and to the corners so if that is your priority go for that one. But the pre-asph draws with the old Leica magic and produces very unique images. However I would not go so far as to compare it to the Nocti. I am one of those who doesn't find the OOF areas of the Nocti to be wonderful and I certainly do for the 50 pre asph. YMMV Woody Spedden Finally found some images from the Leica Porsche trip to Germany in June. These are from Heidelburg. Shot at 5.6 so the lens boke is not well shown. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/39120-lux50-asph-vs-lux50-before2004/?do=findComment&comment=415011'>More sharing options...
doug_m Posted November 30, 2007 Share #16 Posted November 30, 2007 I've owned both and traded in the pre ASPH for the current 50 ASPH Lux. The current model 50 mm Lux ASPH is my favorite M8 lens by a long shot. You really should hold out for the ASPH version. This lens, with its floating element, gives you great results without any stopping down. Its a superb M8 portrait lens. Check out some of the stuff taken with it on the photo forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share #17 Posted November 30, 2007 I've owned both and traded in the pre ASPH for the current 50 ASPH Lux. The current model 50 mm Lux ASPH is my favorite M8 lens by a long shot. You really should hold out for the ASPH version. This lens, with its floating element, gives you great results without any stopping down. Its a superb M8 portrait lens. Check out some of the stuff taken with it on the photo forum. Hi Doug, what about dimensions and weight? Or machanical tech? Do they built 'em with the same quality?did you find a fault in one of those? regards Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 30, 2007 Author Share #18 Posted November 30, 2007 I love my 50mm Pre-Asph. It's my candid portrait lens. [ATTACH]63560[/ATTACH] Hi David, really nice picture? just a question, was this the colour of your son's jacket, or did you just get off the uv/ir? And in that case, any focussin issue without it at FA? thanks a lot Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveB Posted November 30, 2007 Share #19 Posted November 30, 2007 was this the colour of your son's jacket, or did you just get off the uv/ir?And in that case, any focussin issue without it at FA? thanks a lot Maurizio No, what we're looking at is the famous magenta cast. That's a uniformly black jacket. Also note that the green vegetation is not rendered quite right either. This is how outdoor photos look without the UV/IR filter. Sometimes the IR problems seem to be even more apparent in shadowed settings than they are in direct sunlight. This was shot back in July while my UV/IR filters were on a slow boat from Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 30, 2007 Share #20 Posted November 30, 2007 ...what about dimensions and weight?... http://tinyurl.com/rv7w/DSC00622-afterweb.jpg http://tinyurl.com/rv7w/LeicaM_5014_11868.pdf http://tinyurl.com/rv7w/LeicaM_5014asph.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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