RogerW Posted October 21, 2014 Share #1 Posted October 21, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have recently bought a Leica II f No 6787xx. It has the late II f top speed of 1/1000 but the 'dial' is black, not red. Has anyone come across one? It does not seem to be a conversion owing to the late S/N. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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luigi bertolotti Posted October 21, 2014 Share #2 Posted October 21, 2014 1/1000 can be normal for that s/n... black numbers on synchro dial is not.... maybe it has been restored and the numbers re-painted... Can you post a picture of the top ? Has the times knob the standard writing with "25--1" at the slowest speed ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted October 21, 2014 Share #3 Posted October 21, 2014 I seem to remember comments that the red numbers can get pretty dirty and look black. Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerW Posted October 21, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted October 21, 2014 Thanks for your interest. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/235868-leica-iif-question/?do=findComment&comment=2692977'>More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted October 22, 2014 Share #5 Posted October 22, 2014 Hi Roger I'll defer to Luigi, who will give you the expert opinion but to me it looks like a 11f Red Dial from about 1953-54, it might be that the numbers look black through use but are actually red. I have two cameras where you would be hard pressed to tell that the numbers started out as red - they look black even if you get a really close look. Oddly the numbers on my 11f from the same period are a good clear red but that camera was a 'barn find' in Denmark and shows little, if any use - we just have to sort out the film transport on that one, which seems to have been 'out of kilter' from the outset (it is known in some circles of the LUF as 'The Devil's Camera', as it is a beautiful machine waiting to be used but you can't get a film through it.....). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 22, 2014 Share #6 Posted October 22, 2014 Hi Roger I'll defer to Luigi, who will give you the expert opinion but to me it looks like a 11f Red Dial from about 1953-54, it might be that the numbers look black through use but are actually red. My opinion too (and, Robert, thanks for the "expert" referred to me... but I do not pretend to be really one...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyoung Posted October 22, 2014 Share #7 Posted October 22, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) My memory from 50 years ago when I owned a IIf black dial (confirmed by a bit of googling) is that the shutter speed progression is diffferent too, with the black dial having 30, 60, 100 and the red dial the 25, 50, 75, 100 you have Gerry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerW Posted October 22, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted October 22, 2014 Thank you, gentlemen! Some gentle cleaning, a lens and bright sunlight revealed a dark red! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 22, 2014 Share #9 Posted October 22, 2014 My memory from 50 years ago when I owned a IIf black dial (confirmed by a bit of googling) is that the shutter speed progression is diffferent too, with the black dial having 30, 60, 100 and the red dial the 25, 50, 75, 100 you have Gerry Correct : the times knob of the black dial is this : Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/235868-leica-iif-question/?do=findComment&comment=2693181'>More sharing options...
lorax412 Posted October 24, 2014 Share #10 Posted October 24, 2014 I have have owned an Elmar for seven years and only this month realized it was a red scale, same reasons as above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Furst Posted December 10, 2014 Share #11 Posted December 10, 2014 I also have a IIf with serial number 712072 and originally thought that it was a black dial but on closer examination under the microscope it had specks of red, showing its true stripes. I also thought I had a rare one. Oh well when it comes to Leica this is the dream too often shattered by reality! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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