DIFFERENT ZOOEP'S?

[Guest Ron (Netherlands)]

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Looking closer at the different adapters for my visoflexes, it just appeared to me that the chormium ZOOEP’s (at least I think they are given that name) have a tiny difference, the ‘00’ and the ‘95’ markings under the word 'CANADA' as can be seen in the first picture (the '00' marking in red, the '95' marking in black).

Further I have an adapter that also fits the 90mm Summicron but seems to be a black ZOOEP although it has no distance scale like the chromium ones. It has a number (16462) whereas the chromium ones have no further number or name indication.

 

First would like to know the meaning of the ‘00’ and the ‘95’ markings on the chromium ZOOEP’s. Secondly, why there is also a quite different black ZOOEP? Thanks

 

 

 

[gyoung]

Looking closer at the different adapters for my visoflexes, it just appeared to me that the chormium ZOOEP’s (at least I think they are given that name) have a tiny difference, the ‘00’ and the ‘95’ markings under the word 'CANADA' as can be seen in the first picture (the '00' marking in red, the '95' marking in black).

Further I have an adapter that also fits the 90mm Summicron but seems to be a black ZOOEP although it has no distance scale like the chromium ones. It has a number (16462) whereas the chromium ones have no further number or name indication.

 

First would like to know the meaning of the ‘00’ and the ‘95’ markings on the chromium ZOOEP’s. Secondly, why there is also a quite different black ZOOEP? Thanks

 

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kpmg0072/ZOOEP/IMG_4759.JPG

 

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kpmg0072/ZOOEP/IMG_4760.JPG

 

http://www.xs4all.nl/~kpmg0072/ZOOEP/IMG_4761.JPG

 

The 00 and 95 would be the usual markings surely showing the focal length they were set for, although without rangefinder coupling its a bitt OTT (IMHO) to be so precise! 00 would be for a 90mm lens, 95 for a 89.5 mm.

The black one is the later 16462, which will also take the lens head from the 135/2.8 Elmarit, so doesn't have a focussing scale since it would not do for both lenses. I have been looking for one of these for a while, but they are not easy to find at a reasonable price!

 

Gerry

[Guest Ron (Netherlands)]

Thanks Gerry, indeed these adapters seem to be more rare than others. I don't have a 135mm elmarit, is that the one with the goggles?

 

The 00 and 95 would be the usual markings surely showing the focal length they were set for, although without rangefinder coupling its a bitt OTT (IMHO) to be so precise! 00 would be for a 90mm lens, 95 for a 89.5 mm.

The black one is the later 16462, which will also take the lens head from the 135/2.8 Elmarit, so doesn't have a focussing scale since it would not do for both lenses. I have been looking for one of these for a while, but they are not easy to find at a reasonable price!

 

Gerry

[gyoung]

Thanks Gerry, indeed these adapters seem to be more rare than others. I don't have a 135mm elmarit, is that the one with the goggles?

 

It is indeed, bulky and heavy, but the goggles help the viewing and focussing.

 

Gerry

[luigi bertolotti]

Not all the ZOOEPs do have the little numbers detailing the exact focl (mine has not, for instance) : a possible explanation can be that such ZOEEPs were indeed sold as part of a complete Summicron 90 in short mount version (11124 or 11126) : the detail of the real FL of the lens unit could be a useful reference when one wanted to order the long focusing mount (14017 or 14019) to use the lens directly on a BM/SM body... the Leitz catalog specified that when you ordered the above long mounts you had to "send the lens for matching" : the little numbers were surely useful for the lab to adjust the long mount for RF coupling, which is of course critical for a 90 f2

[gyoung]

I finally acquired a 16462 mount. thanks to M J.C Braconi. and promised to show a pic in use. Not exactly as Leica inteneded, but this is with the Elmarit 135 M lenshead with 16462 mount, on Panasonic G1 via Viso to Nikon and Nikon to M4/3 adaptors.

At the German GP last Sunday, just shows you don't need AF, or even auto diaphragm for such things, but then I had plenty of practice in the 60s with preset lenses.

 

Gerry

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[jc_braconi]

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Nice pict indeed, we can see that you have some practice

and thanks to post a Ferrari

[gyoung]

I have one of a McLaren driven by our Jensen Button, but its not quite so sharp at the ends of the car, most were taken with the Panasonic zoom, which is pretty good, but on manual focus:rolleyes:

 

I'm surprised I didn't get camera shake from the cold, it was only 11 degrees! the coldest I have ever known at a race.

 

Gerry

[luigi bertolotti]

I finally acquired a 16462 mount. thanks to M J.C Braconi. and promised to show a pic in use. Not exactly as Leica inteneded, but this is with the Elmarit 135 M lenshead with 16462 mount, on Panasonic G1 via Viso to Nikon and Nikon to M4/3 adaptors.

At the German GP last Sunday, just shows you don't need AF, or even auto diaphragm for such things, but then I had plenty of practice in the 60s with preset lenses.

 

Gerry

 

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