piblondin Posted May 6, 2011 Share #1 Posted May 6, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) If given the choice between a) underexposing this film by a couple stops and developing as a 400 speed film and shooting it at 1600 or 3200 and pushing it equivalently in development, what would you choose? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stealth3kpl Posted May 6, 2011 Share #2 Posted May 6, 2011 I've been waiting for someone to test this too. JC mentions some intention to push a stop with the film rated at 3200 but I've not found the result anywhere. Perhaps Riccis or Rolo could ask him? Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted May 6, 2011 Share #3 Posted May 6, 2011 Pushing the development should give you better negatives then developing it normal. Despite all the hubbub about this film being somehow magical with respect to underexposure, I found it was very similar to Portra 400NC and 400VC in this regard. Which is to say pretty good, but NOT magic. I've seen some pretty good results from it with a real push though. It looks better at 400 than it does at 800. But if you shot it at 800, it does pretty well with no push development (like many films). Two stops under (1600) started to look a bit rough. It might work with some tweaks in Photoshop in the right kind of lighting. But it should do better with a real push in development. I'd say if you are going to push it, go two stops. Here's a semi-controlled test I did of 400, 400NC, and 400VC, all developed normally, and exposed from 4 stops under to 6 stops over, in daylight, tungsten light, and tungsten light with a KB6. Collection: Portra comparison Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rawcs Posted May 6, 2011 Share #4 Posted May 6, 2011 Thanks Tgray, a most informative test. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPerson Posted May 7, 2011 Share #5 Posted May 7, 2011 Jonathan Canlas has pushed it to 3200 in MF. In a previous thread Riccis said he was going to try 3200 with 35mm but haven't seen any results yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted May 7, 2011 Share #6 Posted May 7, 2011 TGray I just checked out a high resolution image from your Portra test. Those are impressively flat scans I was wondering which scanner/film holder you used. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted May 7, 2011 Share #7 Posted May 7, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Precision Camera did the scans. Can't beat the price - $12/roll for development and scans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_S Posted May 7, 2011 Share #8 Posted May 7, 2011 When you take into account the time and hassle spent scanning a role of film oneself, this does indeed seem good value. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StS Posted July 5, 2011 Share #9 Posted July 5, 2011 What about simply using Portra 800? I have no experience using this film, just wondering... Stefan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted July 6, 2011 Share #10 Posted July 6, 2011 What about simply using Portra 800? I have no experience using this film, just wondering... Stefan Hi Stefan Much better compromise then pushing if you want the films best try at color. If you need 1600 push the Portra 800, but I'd not recommend that. Getting a lens one stop faster is expensive... Holding the camera steady and shooting at slower speed. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted July 6, 2011 Share #11 Posted July 6, 2011 I know this thread is oldish, but if anyone is still interested... The new Portra 400 is probably my go to color film (I also shoot Ektar 100 and Portra 160NC from time to time, but not as much as I shoot the new Portra). The main reason why I enjoy the Portra so much is because it can easily be pushed to 1600 (even 3200 sometime)- no problemo. That said, shooting at 1600, 3200 is a tad bit trickier. "Correct" exposure becomes uber critical. Personally, I usually over-expose the scene by 1/3 of a stop as a general rule, but it does vary some situation to situation. Here are some examples: Portra 400 shot @ 3200 / Push 3 in developing: EX1: VIP @ McDonald's - asphericalperspective. EX2: Cobblestone - asphericalperspective. Portra 400 shot @ 1600 / Push 2 in developing: EX1:http://easysee.zenfolio.com/img/v26/p825262556-4.jpg EX2:http://easysee.zenfolio.com/img/v20/p991781416-4.jpg Portra 400 shot @ 800 / Push 1 in developing: EX1: Carson @ Meat Ball Shop - asphericalperspective. Hopefully these images can give you a general idea as to what the Portra looks like under pushed conditions. My recommendation is to rate the film as 1600 or 3200 and shot it a wee bit over-exposed and then push accordingly in post. Maybe the results are not to your taste, but I really enjoy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Johnson Posted July 7, 2011 Share #12 Posted July 7, 2011 Who do you get to push the film? So far in UK I can't find anyone who can do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted July 7, 2011 Share #13 Posted July 7, 2011 Charlie - Not sure I can help you there. One of the upsides to living on Manhattan is that you can find someone to do anything for you. My lab (CrC) does it for me, I simply tell them how I'd like each roll to be processed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted July 7, 2011 Share #14 Posted July 7, 2011 Who do you get to push the film? So far in UK I can't find anyone who can do it. Palm labs show a "Re-Rating" fee - actually it free HERE Genie Imaging show a push/pull fee here Pete Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Johnson Posted July 7, 2011 Share #15 Posted July 7, 2011 Thanks. I have a roll of Portra 400 I am working through at 1600. I will give them a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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