jgbossert Posted June 5, 2010 Share #1 Posted June 5, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, I posted this question in the german forum also, but in german language. I use 50mm lenses nearly exclusively (sometimes 40mm also). But I'm always positively surprised, when I look through my Bessa R3A viewfinder. It has 1.0x magnification, is bright and clear. In any other aspects I really prefer Leica Ms. I always frame and shot with both eyes open, so a 1.0x viewfinder is essential for me. There are several ways to reach this and I hope some of you got some hints for me: - Has anyone a 0.72x Leica with an original 1.4x magnifier? Is the 50mm frame visible without moving the eye? - Has anyone a 0.72x Leica with a third party 1.35x magnifier? Is the 50mm frame visible without moving the eye? - Has anyone a 0.85x Leica with an original 1.25x magnifier? Is the 50mm frame visible without moving the eye? - Has anyone a 0.85x Leica with a third party 1.25x magnifier? Is the 50mm frame visible without moving the eye? I have a 0.85x Leica M6 with a third party 1.15x magnifier. Framing with both eyes open works great, but I'm not satisfied with the optical quality. But my dealer offered me an inspection and replacement. When I got the part back, I report you. Nevertheless I would be very pleased to get some hints and experiences Danke, Gottlieb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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treeplanter Posted June 5, 2010 Share #2 Posted June 5, 2010 Regarding the first choice, 0.72 viewfinder with 1.4X magnifier, you can see the horizontal and vertical lines of the 50mm framelines clearly, but the corners are slightly cut-off. Also, this is viewing your eyes, not wearing glasses. JIm B. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted June 5, 2010 Share #3 Posted June 5, 2010 Hi If you are right eyed then you can still use a 0.72 finder with both eyes open, just don't close the left eye, Nothing bad will happen. It does require some concentration to be happy using this scheme but it should be second nature quickly. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbossert Posted June 9, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted June 9, 2010 Hello! I need the magnifiers not to focus more accurate, but to frame with my left eye, while my right eye is looking through the viewfinder and seeing the framelines and focus patch. Therefore I need close to 1.0x magnification. With 0.85x this is NOT possible. I just bought the original Leica 1.25x magnifier lens and a china copy of it. The result: - On a 0.85x body the china lens is waste of money. They cut down glass for price and you only see a crop of the viewfinder. Just 75mm is visible. Forget 50mm. - With the original Leica magnifier, the corners of 50mm are not visible, but parts of the framelines. You can work with this to compose with both eyes open. - With the Japan Exposures 1.15x magnifier its just perfect. You can clearly see the 50mm frame and composing with both eyes open is a real pleasure. This ist the absolute favorite. I write more when I got my replacement lens back from japan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbossert Posted June 10, 2010 Author Share #5 Posted June 10, 2010 - With the original Leica magnifier, the corners of 50mm are not visible, but parts of the framelines. You can work with this to compose with both eyes open. Additum: With a diopter correction lens, it is no longer possible to work with the Leica 1.25x magnifier. But I just tested an M3. Yes, with 0.91x it is not alwasy easy, but good enough to work with. Much better than 0.85+1.25, because the image is very clean and the frames are very visible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted June 10, 2010 Share #6 Posted June 10, 2010 Hello! I need the magnifiers not to focus more accurate, but to frame with my left eye, while my right eye is looking through the viewfinder and seeing the framelines and focus patch. Therefore I need close to 1.0x magnification. With 0.85x this is NOT possible. I just bought the original Leica 1.25x magnifier lens and a china copy of it. The result: - On a 0.85x body the china lens is waste of money. They cut down glass for price and you only see a crop of the viewfinder. Just 75mm is visible. Forget 50mm. - With the original Leica magnifier, the corners of 50mm are not visible, but parts of the framelines. You can work with this to compose with both eyes open. - With the Japan Exposures 1.15x magnifier its just perfect. You can clearly see the 50mm frame and composing with both eyes open is a real pleasure. This ist the absolute favorite. I write more when I got my replacement lens back from japan. It is difficult for lots of people to not close the left eye, but it is not impossible to keep both eyes open and use the frame if you accept that you wont get stereo vision, and that you have to 'switch dominant eyes' explicitly. You may have to try hard but you should not get a headache, trying. It is fair to say that I need to do this for acuity, I can focus reasonably with my right eye but have better vision with my left, so I can adopt dual dissimilar vision more easily that people with symmetrical acuity. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted June 11, 2010 Share #7 Posted June 11, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) An M3 has a .95 finder. Using 50s on one is a real pleasure. And a lot better than a .72 with a mag. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgbossert Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share #8 Posted June 12, 2010 An M3 has a .95 finder. Using 50s on one is a real pleasure. And a lot better than a .72 with a mag. Carl Yes, just looked through a M3 viewfinder and bought one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 12, 2010 Share #9 Posted June 12, 2010 I use an M7 with .75 finder and 1.25 magnifier and the 50mm frame is visible, and it is a true 1:1 view. You should try it before buying because individuals have different tolerances and preferences for viewing the frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted June 12, 2010 Share #10 Posted June 12, 2010 I use an M7 with .75 finder ... What are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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