poptart Posted February 21, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 21, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Am thinking of getting a .85 in an M7 or MP. Currently have a .72 M7 and love it but so many people seem to really love the MP and I must say it is lovely to look at. Would appreciate any thoughts on switching from M7 to MP! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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peter_n Posted February 21, 2010 Share #2 Posted February 21, 2010 I made that particular switch. I started off almost seven years ago now with an M6TTL, then got two M7 bodies, 0.72x and 0.85x but after using them for 2-3 years decided to go back to mechanicals. I bought two MP bodies, also 0.72x and 0.85x and ultimately sold the first three. I found the M7 AE something of a crutch that I used so much I was messing up my exposures and I don't shoot slides. The M7 is a terrific camera but I just prefer the manual control as it makes me think a bit more. I happened to find the two MPs locally at great prices and bought them within a day of each other, but it could just as easily have been two M6 bodies. These choices are personal, but I like the MPs and they are very reliable and it looks like they're keepers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrh68uk Posted February 21, 2010 Share #3 Posted February 21, 2010 Not made the switch, but added a beautiful chrome MP alc (used) to my M7. I would not consider swapping the M7. When my MP arrived I was so smitten that I looked at my M7 and wondered whether I'd ever feel the same about it. That was fairly short-lived, though. I'm glad to have both and appreciate the automation of the M7 as much as I appreciate the full-on manual mode of the MP. I guess it depends what mood I'm in but they seem, at the moment, to have fallen to MP for B&W (process myself) and M7 colour. If I had swapped my M7 for an MP I would have ended up regretting it. Having both is ideal for me, though I can understand the argument for 2xMP or 2xM7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
poptart Posted February 21, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted February 21, 2010 Thanks for the responses, I am definitely leaning towards adding the .85 as an MP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Davis Posted February 21, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 21, 2010 I still use both. The M7 is great for grab shooting, the MP has the ability to control exposure exactly as I want it, can't help on the framing, I've always had .72 finders (except on an M3). You might miss the M7 but the MP is so good to use and if you can manage your exposure then it's a great machine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pangur Ban Posted February 21, 2010 Share #6 Posted February 21, 2010 I had an black 0.72 M7 first then bought a chrome 0.58 MP later as I was off on a long trip to SE Asia for several months and wanted a second body to take with me. I've since sold them both but the MP went first - it's a fabulous camera but there was something more about the M7 to me. Checking my records it's interesting that I actually used them both about the same amount. In an ideal world I'd still have them both, alongside my M8 that replaced them. If you're thinking of switching then I'd probably recommend it - otherwise your curiosity will not be sated, but don't be surprised if you come back to the M7 after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkoush Posted February 21, 2010 Share #7 Posted February 21, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Am thinking of getting a .85 in an M7 or MP. Currently have a .72 M7 and love it but so many people seem to really love the MP and I must say it is lovely to look at. Would appreciate any thoughts on switching from M7 to MP! I switched from an M7 to an MP about 3 years ago (after using the M7 for 3 years). Not any fundamentally important reason for the switch (I'm not a professional photographer). I simply found that I was using the M7 for most of the time as an MP (i.e., not using aperture priority AE), then one day a nice like-new MP became available, sold the M7 and took the chance, never regretted it since then. It's a very nice camera, as long as you are not interested in AE. Plus, it does look good! Savvas P.S. Re-training my right hand to rotate the right direction on the shutter speed dial took maybe a day, but I understand others may have a different experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest maddoc2003jp Posted February 22, 2010 Share #8 Posted February 22, 2010 I dumped my MP in favor of the M4-P and later added an M7. M7 is used most of the time in AE mode (except at night where I set exposure mostly manually) and the M4-P with an external meter. Works well for me and I often use both cameras in parallel, M7 loaded with color-slide film, M4-P with BW film and both cameras with a 50mm lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted February 22, 2010 Share #9 Posted February 22, 2010 An M7 for the MP.........NEVER. I don't want Mechanical perfection, I prefer exposure perfection. The M7 is simply the best M. Ken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted February 22, 2010 Share #10 Posted February 22, 2010 I still use both. The M7 is great for grab shooting, the MP has the ability to control exposure exactly as I want it, can't help on the framing, I've always had .72 finders (except on an M3). You might miss the M7 but the MP is so good to use and if you can manage your exposure then it's a great machine. You are severely misinforming people, and that's bad. Posts like yours contribute to creating myths or simply spread false information. As soon as you go into manual mode with the M7, it works exactly as the MP. The arrows and all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted February 22, 2010 Share #11 Posted February 22, 2010 Well I'd not want any of you guys to try an M2, cause they are really cheap and nasty, exp with dinks and chipped vulcan. Smoooooooooth as silk wind on and no finder flare (like an MP finder). Unless you use slide - when you really should use an incident meter, carefully - modern film has so much latitude, though I allus try and remember to pack the Weston. If you need you can get a mag eye piece, or a fast rewind sdopter, or a quick load (QL) kit. Only the QL is any way difficult to source. Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakewood Posted February 22, 2010 Share #12 Posted February 22, 2010 yes and back again: M6 - M6TTL - M7 - M7 & M7 - MP & M7 - M7 & M6 - MP - M7 in this sequence. Quite a long way just to end up with the M7. The only thing I miss is the sound of the 1/15th on the MP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted February 22, 2010 Share #13 Posted February 22, 2010 Yes, I did too. I added an M7 to an MP and the M7 quickly became the weapon of choice, going everywhere with me for the benefit of auto-exposure and the Dx coding. However, as I prepared to add an M9 to the kit one had to go. After consideration, the M7 was sold and I returned to the MP for film use. My decision was based heavily on the fact that in the future, my film M was likely to be used only occasionally as a backup camera and dependancy on batteries might be an issue with the M7. Also, I felt that the value might be retained better with the MP and for fondling there's nothing better. If the need arose for me to shoot high volumes of 35mm film again (weddings, say), I'd definitely buy another M7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakewood Posted February 22, 2010 Share #14 Posted February 22, 2010 ... Also, I felt that the value might be retained better with the MP and for fondling there's nothing better. ... Hehehe, the MP the definition of "Kuschelstein" - cudling stone. To be perfectly honest, I wouldn't have sold the same MP twice to same guy if I didn't come across that fancy M7-serial number ;-). And the M7 does have a considerable cuddling factor and argueably the nicer "fup" sound of the shutter. Practically I prefer the same handling concept on M analogue and digital which makes the M7 the camera of my choice (not that that means anything important) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgray Posted February 22, 2010 Share #15 Posted February 22, 2010 NB23 - word. While I wouldn't turn down an MP if it were given to me, I have a hard time thinking of any reason to spend the money to upgrade my M6 to an MP. I use my M7 most of the time as it is. In full manual. But damn, the AE is really useful when you need it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJKapsberger Posted February 22, 2010 Share #16 Posted February 22, 2010 You are severely misinforming people, and that's bad. Posts like yours contribute to creating myths or simply spread false information. As soon as you go into manual mode with the M7, it works exactly as the MP. The arrows and all. Thank you, NB23. Yes, the M7's AP mode in no way prevents a reasonable photographer from nailing exposure. It's merely a feature a photographer can use or ignore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted February 22, 2010 Share #17 Posted February 22, 2010 Thank you, NB23. Yes, the M7's AP mode in no way prevents a reasonable photographer from nailing exposure. It's merely a feature a photographer can use or ignore. And as well when the battery goes flat you can ignore that and keep on shooting with a MP, with the M7 is more difficult to ignore a flat battery. You don't have the annoying left a bit right a bit lights to distract you from pushing the shutter at the right time... Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AgXlove Posted February 23, 2010 Share #18 Posted February 23, 2010 when the battery goes flat you can ignore that and keep on shooting with a MP Noel That is why I chose the MP over the M7 - full range of shutter speeds, even with no battery power. This has come in handy on several occasions. I've never regretted investing in the MP. It's one camera that I'll always hang on to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christer Posted February 23, 2010 Share #19 Posted February 23, 2010 That is why I chose the MP over the M7 - full range of shutter speeds, even with no battery power. This has come in handy on several occasions.. Batteries are cheap, at least when you can decide where and when to buy them. The use-by date is years away when you buy fresh stock. Buy a dozen, leave two in the car, two in the camera bag, if you have one, two in your wife's, if you have one, handbag and two in an old film container together with a lens cleaning cloth and keep that container with your spare films. I have never run out of batteries, and I have had two M7s almost since they came out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygsandhu Posted February 26, 2010 Share #20 Posted February 26, 2010 I sold my M7 because my hexar rf is better. I bought an MP and it's my favorite camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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