diogenis Posted February 1, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 1, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Guys how do you feel about lightroom: Leica's latest processor of choice, after Job's and a large part of the world's accusation of Adobe as lazy? How does lightroom performs against the other packages: C1, aperture....? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cheewai_m6 Posted February 1, 2010 Share #2 Posted February 1, 2010 it's good Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckthual Posted February 1, 2010 Share #3 Posted February 1, 2010 I think the best software I discovered in the last 10 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted February 1, 2010 Share #4 Posted February 1, 2010 Jobs was referring to Flash. He points to flash as the cause of the instability problems of Safari. He don't want flash in the iPhone or the iPad due to this reason. That is all. I find Apple more lazy than Adobe regarding RAW development software... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted February 1, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 1, 2010 LR is so good that I hardly use PS anymore. This being said, C1 is marginally better if you want to get the best out of your DNGs. I just don't find the difference to be worth the hassle of the extra step - but that's just me. Can't compare to Aperture, as I'm a Win user. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted February 1, 2010 Share #6 Posted February 1, 2010 Lightroom is great, I never use Photoshop anymore. Hope version 3 improves on a few weak points such as noise reduction. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share #7 Posted February 1, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Jobs was referring to Adobe for laziness as a whole, and not just for their flash, which was the reason of his burst of course. Anyway this has sparked that rumor and now it resonates everywhere. You have a great % of people bashing Adobe, calling them lazy and that they must change and so on and so on. With the advent of the ipad and the multitouch OS I would really love to see some software using fingers for post processing, instead of mouse and keyboard. That is the real revolution the ipad will bring for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted February 1, 2010 Share #8 Posted February 1, 2010 Lightroom is good, Photoshop CS4 is good, Aperture is good, Capture One is good. Choose one, use it, get to know it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted February 1, 2010 Share #9 Posted February 1, 2010 J.With the advent of the ipad and the multitouch OS I would really love to see some software using fingers for post processing, instead of mouse and keyboard. That is the real revolution the ipad will bring for me. I really would love to see you performing localized corrections with your fingers on an Ipad. It would drive you nuts after 30 minutes. Unluckily, we have no "reduce size of finger" function in our body design Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrice Posted February 1, 2010 Share #10 Posted February 1, 2010 I'd also love to see the iPad install an actual raw processing application, being that it runs iPhone OS 3.2 and not OS-X. And on the off-chance that someone does create such a thing, I'd love to see the 1GHz arm-derivative processor and rumoured 512mb of RAM handle a raw file, or a tiff file with layers, masks and localised adjustments. I think what you want is a Cintiq and an Apple Mac Pro. Or a good tablet with a Wacom digitizer. You don't want to use your fingers for image manipulation, trust me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share #11 Posted February 1, 2010 Of course I want to use my fingers Thats why they are there in the first place aren't they? We are lucky to have 2 special tools (hands) and we don't know how to use them to manipulate screen objects??? Then how can a surgeon operate?? It's just a question of a good and intuitive interface. Surely you don't expect that a 30 years old mouse is gonna stick with use for 30 years more ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted February 1, 2010 Share #12 Posted February 1, 2010 Surely you don't expect that a 30 years old mouse is gonna stick with use for 30 years more ... What like the rangefinder or the wheel? Sometimes there is just something that works and stays with us. Jeff Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted February 1, 2010 Share #13 Posted February 1, 2010 Jobs was referring to Flash. He points to flash as the cause of the instability problems of Safari. He don't want flash in the iPhone or the iPad due to this reason. That is all. O.T. There's a commercial problem with Flash too (the main issue perhaps). Some suspect that a "free" platform for games and apps may be counterproductive for the AppStore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
microview Posted February 1, 2010 Share #14 Posted February 1, 2010 Having foolishly lost swathes of images from LR since I believed I was merely deleting from its complicated catalogues, rather than deleting from my hard drive, I have every reason to despise the program. But gradually I am finding it does a better job with DNGs to Tiffs than C1 v5. Frustratingly, I can see all those lost files in LR Library but cannot do more than mourn their unavailability for printing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
diogenis Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share #15 Posted February 1, 2010 What like the rangefinder or the wheel? Sometimes there is just something that works and stays with us. Jeff Sure they work. But again they have their limitations. And the fact they work doesn't mean that something else might be better. To work with a mouse you need a surface, to work with a wacom you need the thing and the surface, as well as all the rest usual stuff: screen, main unit or just a laptop. Imagine the scale of freedom a tablet gives with nothing than multitouch interface. I believe its the future, but I guess we will know soon enough Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanyasi Posted February 1, 2010 Share #16 Posted February 1, 2010 I love Lightroom and I bought Aperture when I bought an Apple and after about half hour went back to Lightroom. Admittedly, I didn't spend a lot of time with Aperture, but the reason was that it was not intuitive to me and I was very happy with Lightroom. The only reason I experimented was because I was curious. As for Adobe, Jobs may be right, but I would note that the Safari web browser doesn't work with a whole bunch of main stream sites, including ebay postings, my mainstream brokerage firm, and typepad blogs. So you can make the same case about Apple. I wish Jobs would get with the Flash program. It is preinstalled on 97% or so of all Windows computers, it is industry standard, and it is very good. He may wish Flash would disappear, but it isn't going to so he should get with the program. Jack Siegel Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldp Posted February 1, 2010 Share #17 Posted February 1, 2010 Lightroom is good, Photoshop CS4 is good, Aperture is good, Capture One is good. Choose one, use it, get to know it. Indeed. ... H Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanhulsenbeek Posted February 2, 2010 Share #18 Posted February 2, 2010 Having foolishly lost swathes of images from LR since I believed I was merely deleting from its complicated catalogues, rather than deleting from my hard drive, I have every reason to despise the program. But gradually I am finding it does a better job with DNGs to Tiffs than C1 v5. Frustratingly, I can see all those lost files in LR Library but cannot do more than mourn their unavailability for printing. I commiserate with you - and know that sinking feeling after a badly prepared button-click - but do you really keep only one copy of your pictures? During my recent 6 weeks vacantion very far away, every evening I first copied a days' harvest on a netbook's harddrive and then on two different - but very light - usb drives. Three copies in all! Only thereafter I started LR on the netbook to have a look Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted February 2, 2010 Share #19 Posted February 2, 2010 Having foolishly lost swathes of images from LR since I believed I was merely deleting from its complicated catalogues, rather than deleting from my hard drive, I have every reason to despise the program. But gradually I am finding it does a better job with DNGs to Tiffs than C1 v5. Frustratingly, I can see all those lost files in LR Library but cannot do more than mourn their unavailability for printing. If your on Windows check Undelete Software for Windows - WinUndelete It's saved my life more times than I care to remember... You'll be astounded how many files are still sitting there... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted February 2, 2010 Share #20 Posted February 2, 2010 I'm loving lightroom... it just seems logical to me. So well designed and implemented. I get just as excited using it as I did when I was in the wet darkroom. Except now, I get to work on a load of photos all at the same time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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