Paul Reading Posted May 26, 2011 Share #1 Posted May 26, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) I love the video, for those that have not seen it:- Leica Camera AG - Photography - V-LUX 30 I like the fact that this camera has GPS tagging. The problem is where does this sit in the range it is price slightly cheaper than the D-Lux 5 but is it good enough to take that slot? I was tempted to buy a D-Lux 5 but I thought if I hold off they might update it with GPS tagging. I assume that the sensor size is probably smaller than the D-Lux without looking and a slower lens. Decisions decisions.... there is no right answer merely options Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 Hi Paul Reading, Take a look here V-Lux 30. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Tenor1 Posted May 26, 2011 Share #2 Posted May 26, 2011 Thanks for the link. The video would only play a few seconds for me but it was enough to see how amazingly clear it is. Does it have the same sensor as the D-Lux5 and was does 3-D capture mean? I have a D-Lux4 and love it, but this has a lot more features. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjim Posted May 26, 2011 Share #3 Posted May 26, 2011 As far as I can see, it's got a 'new' design sensor which is larger than previous, and I think it's larger than the D-Lux 5. But that doesn't mean it's better than the current D-Lux 5. Look for the reviews of the Panasonic version to get a better idea as I'm sure it's good but far from perfect. http://www.cameralabs.com/reviews/Panasonic_Lumix_DMC_TZ20_ZS10/ it appears to be around the £600 mark if not more and that puts it firmly in the D-Lux 5's territory. That makes me think the next D-Lux 6 will be more expensive. I have noticed that the V-Lux 30 comes with Two of Adobe's products, Elements 9 & Premier Elements 9. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted May 26, 2011 Share #4 Posted May 26, 2011 a few weeks ago i bought the panny version for my son before he went off on a trip overseas. just saw the pictures, they are wonderful. for him, the gps, and all that gave him way better than simple snaps of a vacation. i would certainly suggest this camera for anyone looking for a good travel camera. if you are looking for a camera to compete with the x1 x100 or m9, forget it. it is what it is and for that it does an outstanding job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted May 26, 2011 Share #5 Posted May 26, 2011 Does it have a RAW format? K-H. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted May 26, 2011 Share #6 Posted May 26, 2011 i do not believe so, at least the panny version doesn't. think of this camera as a really high end instamatic with a great zoom. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 26, 2011 Share #7 Posted May 26, 2011 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) As far as I can see, it's got a 'new' design sensor which is larger than previous, and I think it's larger than the D-Lux 5. It is the same size as the sensor of the V-Lux 20 (the effective size is slightly larger though) and smaller than the sensor of the D-Lux 5. The pixel pitch of the V-Lux 20 and V-Lux 30 appears to be the same, despite the V-Lux 30 having a higher pixel count. Edited May 26, 2011 by mjh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
netsrot Posted May 27, 2011 Share #8 Posted May 27, 2011 V-Lux 30 has exactly the same sensor as the V-Lux 2. So the same noise problems, but no RAW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krabat Posted May 27, 2011 Share #9 Posted May 27, 2011 It does not make very much sense to put such a lot of pixels onto such a small sensor. I've got an older Panasonic with the same problem, and the only way to get rid of the noise, though not satisfactory, is to reduce the pixel size by Photoshop. Eight or ten megapixels are completely sufficient for such a small sensor, six or seven would also do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reading Posted May 27, 2011 Author Share #10 Posted May 27, 2011 It does not make very much sense to put such a lot of pixels onto such a small sensor. I've got an older Panasonic with the same problem, and the only way to get rid of the noise, though not satisfactory, is to reduce the pixel size by Photoshop. Eight or ten megapixels are completely sufficient for such a small sensor, six or seven would also do. How do you reduce pixel size using photoshop? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krabat Posted May 27, 2011 Share #11 Posted May 27, 2011 Sorry, wrong wording... Of course, the number of pixels, i.e. image size was reduced. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjim Posted May 27, 2011 Share #12 Posted May 27, 2011 Comparing the v-lux30 with the d-lux5: the 30 gives you a large focal length but it only has something like F3.3 whereas the 5 has less reach - 90mm - but has F2 so the 5 has the better Quality lens. You never know, the d-lux6 may have gps too when it comes out. Cheers, Macjim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 27, 2011 Share #13 Posted May 27, 2011 ... You never know, the d-lux6 may have gps too when it comes out. Hopefully not...! I have a TZ6 (previous generation) and a D-Lux 4. Even allowing for a product cycle in between them, there is a world of difference. The TZ is firmly targeted at the PHD ("Push Here, Dummy") market. It is a competent, slip in a pocket, snapper. The D-Lux series are "Prosumer" high end compact digicams. I would hate to see some of the "features" in this new camera "trickle up" to the D-Lux range. Regards, Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjim Posted May 27, 2011 Share #14 Posted May 27, 2011 Hopefully not...! I have a TZ6 (previous generation) and a D-Lux 4. Even allowing for a product cycle in between them, there is a world of difference. The TZ is firmly targeted at the PHD ("Push Here, Dummy") market. It is a competent, slip in a pocket, snapper. The D-Lux series are "Prosumer" high end compact digicams. I would hate to see some of the "features" in this new camera "trickle up" to the D-Lux range. Regards, Bill Sadly that's what can happen as it's the latest fad camera manufacturers are adding to most camera's, they're pandering to the iPhoto, YouTube, Flickr etc worlds where the novelty is to be able to say “this is where I took this shot” and it shows up on the computer screen with the wee flashing icon! Whether we want it or not, it's a way to sell camera's, adding features we don't want. Just look at video for one, I admit I didn't want or need video on my camera but when I bought my first camera with it, a D90, I did try it out. And now, with my iPhone 4 and the D-Lux 5 having video, I have joined the YouTube world. I have my own web site, Vimeo account, Flickr account and YouTube, so I wouldn't discount the possibility of GPS coming to the higher end camera's, but I too hope it won't happen to the next d-lux! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reading Posted May 28, 2011 Author Share #15 Posted May 28, 2011 I don't see a problem with GPS tracking it is just an extension of EXIF data what's the problem with that? As I understand it the tracking just happens in the background and it is just there, if you don't need it then it doesn't matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 28, 2011 Share #16 Posted May 28, 2011 I don't see a problem with GPS tracking it is just an extension of EXIF data what's the problem with that? As I understand it the tracking just happens in the background and it is just there, if you don't need it then it doesn't matter. I think there's an assumption, whether valid or not, that the inclusion of this feature would inevitably increase the price of the camera. Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted May 28, 2011 Share #17 Posted May 28, 2011 I think there's an assumption, whether valid or not, that the inclusion of this feature would inevitably increase the price of the camera. Difficult so say precisely since there is no sister model, without a GPS module but otherwise identical, but the difference would probably amount to $50 or less. Since I often realize but too late that I have left my GPS logger at home, I would appreciate a built-in GPS unit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 28, 2011 Share #18 Posted May 28, 2011 My objection has nothing to do with cost, I just have no desire to tell the world exactly when I have been exactly where. Regards, Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macjim Posted May 28, 2011 Share #19 Posted May 28, 2011 I think you'll find gps can be switched off so nobody has to worry about people finding out where you're not supposed to be ;-) Cheers, Macjim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted May 28, 2011 Share #20 Posted May 28, 2011 My objection has nothing to do with cost, I just have no desire to tell the world exactly when I have been exactly where. I expect the world has no desire to know. Any GPS info can easily be stripped out - as you must be currently doing with the exposure date/time. Alternatively don't switch it on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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