Agent M10 Posted April 3, 2008 Share #1 Posted April 3, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I pulled the trigger and bought a Noctilux (used). My question is: Are you able to use a UV filter on it? I read an article somewhere that you have to use it bare. It's such an expensive lens that I don't want to risk a scratch. Oh, and who makes the best filters? My other lenses all have Leica filters on them. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hacker Posted April 3, 2008 Share #2 Posted April 3, 2008 Of course you can use a UV or a UV/IR filter on it. A lens is a lens is a lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent M10 Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted April 3, 2008 I didn't explain myself well. I've read where even a UV filter will cause vignetting on the Noctilux. The articles have said that the vignetting doesn't matter because you'll be shooting in the dark, but I'm not interested in just using it after 10 pm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted April 3, 2008 Share #4 Posted April 3, 2008 I think you mean light fall off. Many lenses exhibit light falloff to a certain degree under certain conditions. On an M8, because of the cropped sensor, this is not as noticeable as on a FF camera. Even without a filter, this can still heppen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted April 3, 2008 Share #5 Posted April 3, 2008 The instruction book that comes with the Noctilux explicitly says that for the best results no filter should be used. A bit of a bugger if you're using an M8. The Noctilux is the most flare resistant lens I own, but the lens hood is so shallow that I'd expect flare problems from any filter that was fitted, expecially given the lighting conditions that many Noctiluxes are use under - bright 'spots' in an otherwise dark background. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
odd Posted April 3, 2008 Share #6 Posted April 3, 2008 I have a Noc with a UV-filter, but didn’t know this. Steve, thanks for the information. - OM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted April 3, 2008 Share #7 Posted April 3, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think it was the early Noctiluxes with 58mm filters that had some vignetting from the filter. On the M8, the UV-IR filter causes lots of flare spots if shooting in low light with point light sources in the frame, such as candles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted April 3, 2008 Share #8 Posted April 3, 2008 i use a UV on my Noctilux as well - but from what I understand, the corner vignetting is normal when used on a film M. The lens loses some of that character on the M8 though. The look has never bothered me, and once you stop down, it acts like a normal 50 for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmr Posted April 3, 2008 Share #9 Posted April 3, 2008 I have a filter on my Nocti. BUT I do take it off depending on the lighting condition. We usually use Nocti to shoot in available darkness. Like most lens with a filter, if there are light in a distance or at a certain angle in a dark background, you may get it reflected on the filter and showing up like UFO in your shot. And you wonder... what happened? There are a few of those documented in this forum. Use a thin filter if you are afraid of vignetting, but it never did occur for me. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted April 3, 2008 Share #10 Posted April 3, 2008 On the M8, the UV-IR filter causes lots of flare spots if shooting in low light with point light sources in the frame, such as candles. Yup, I've had those too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted April 3, 2008 Share #11 Posted April 3, 2008 The instruction book that comes with the Noctilux explicitly says that for the best results no filter should be used. A bit of a bugger if you're using an M8. The Noctilux is the most flare resistant lens I own, but the lens hood is so shallow that I'd expect flare problems from any filter that was fitted, expecially given the lighting conditions that many Noctiluxes are use under - bright 'spots' in an otherwise dark background. Mine has a customised B&W long hood which I find quite reassuring. Until then, I used it with the UV/IR filter without any problem. As for vignetting, the bare Noctilux does vignetting a lot in certain conditions anyway. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/49703-noctilux-and-filters/?do=findComment&comment=528383'>More sharing options...
robsteve Posted April 3, 2008 Share #12 Posted April 3, 2008 Yup, I've had those too. I have since decided to just shoot the Noctilux without a filter if I am shooting in areas with point light sources. These types of flare spots are from the bright point of lightt forming on the shiny sensor and then reflecting off the sensor back out the lens and hitting the back of the UV-IR filter, causing a flare spot on the filter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent M10 Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share #13 Posted April 3, 2008 What is the best neutral density filter to get to shoot 1.0 during the day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xjr Posted April 3, 2008 Share #14 Posted April 3, 2008 Never use a filter on this lense. Keep a filter on for protection and remove when you go shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted April 3, 2008 Share #15 Posted April 3, 2008 I have since decided to just shoot the Noctilux without a filter if I am shooting in areas with point light sources After having one or two shots ruined in Krakow just before New Year I've decided to do the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted April 3, 2008 Share #16 Posted April 3, 2008 I never use a filter on my Noctilux. Lens cap for protection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted April 4, 2008 Share #17 Posted April 4, 2008 I have an E58 Noctilux with a UV filter on it and the same B+W hood as sthan. Sure there's a bit of light fall-off but there is without the filter too. I don't see that having the filter on makes any difference. Oh, and who makes the best filters? My other lenses all have Leica filters on them.Leica filters are sourced from B+W. They're single coated. The best filters are B+W MRC (multi-resistant coating system). They're multi-coated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
photobike Posted April 10, 2008 Share #18 Posted April 10, 2008 Thanks for the information. I use my nocti for photographing musicians indoors. I have a B&W UV filter that I always have on the lens. I will try a new approach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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