nepalese Posted February 12, 2007 Share #1 Posted February 12, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hy friends..this is my first thread in this forum...I'm Alessandro and I write from Rome. I'm sorry, but I can't speak and write english very well...so...I'm looking for an exposure table to use my M3 without an exposure meter. Can you help me to find it? If you want, you can send me some image-files about exposure table to my e-mail address: fotoklik@hotmail.com Thank you friends Alessandro Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 12, 2007 Posted February 12, 2007 Hi nepalese, Take a look here "exposure table" to make photo with M3. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
TimF Posted February 12, 2007 Share #2 Posted February 12, 2007 Hi Alessandro, Sounds like you need the "Sunny f/16 Rule" Some pages are here, and here. A useful rule-of-thumb for averagely lit interiors is, IIRC, 1/30th at f/1.4 (ISO 400). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepalese Posted February 13, 2007 Author Share #3 Posted February 13, 2007 Thank you very much Tim...I'm looking fot this, but something more careful? Do you know where can I find it? Bye, Alessandro:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted February 13, 2007 Share #4 Posted February 13, 2007 Thank you very much Tim...I'm looking fot this, but something more careful? Do you know where can I find it? Bye, Alessandro:) Alex, maybe the better is to find some "exposure advice" table attached to some old time camera with no exposure meter: I hope to find one an send it to you a copya as attachment: I look for it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted February 13, 2007 Share #5 Posted February 13, 2007 Alessandro, Here is one I leached off a post by a fellow forum member a while back (probably the old forum). My sincere apologies for not remembering the gentleman's name. - Carl Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/16087-exposure-table-to-make-photo-with-m3/?do=findComment&comment=171034'>More sharing options...
Lucklik Posted February 14, 2007 Share #6 Posted February 14, 2007 Hello, Here is an exposure table I used in the 60-ties. It is made for Gevapan 30. If I remind well it is made for Scheiner 30 = 20 Din = 80 Asa or ISO. If you want to use it for 160 (or 200) ISO you have to add 1 to the number you get For 400 you have to add 2 etc rgs Luc Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/16087-exposure-table-to-make-photo-with-m3/?do=findComment&comment=171320'>More sharing options...
nepalese Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share #7 Posted February 14, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thank you very much to all of you...in the next post i will post some results, i hope they will be beautiful. Bye friends Alessandro Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepalese Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share #8 Posted February 14, 2007 I'm sorrry Luc, but I can't see the first image...can you try to send it again? the second one is very interesting...so... Thank you Alessandro Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepalese Posted February 14, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted February 14, 2007 Don't worry Luc...It was a mistake, I cas see the first image now. Thank's again. Alessandro Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavio Posted February 14, 2007 Share #10 Posted February 14, 2007 Wonderful help! Just downloaded and print such a great informations. Those papers will join my future photo walking. Thanks from myself too. Flavio Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandah2 Posted February 16, 2007 Share #11 Posted February 16, 2007 Hi Allessandro, I have found the Jiffy Exposure Calculator available here very useful. Paul Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepalese Posted February 16, 2007 Author Share #12 Posted February 16, 2007 It's very interesting...thank you very much Paul Bye, Alessandro Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted February 17, 2007 Share #13 Posted February 17, 2007 The 'sunny sixteen' rule was originally conceived in Sunny California. Where I live, at close to 60 degrees North, it is more like 'sunny eleven', especially in the winter. Even so, remember: 1) Sunny sixteen is for the sun behind your back. Open up between 1/2 and 2/3 of a stop with sidelight, 1 1/2 for oblique backlighting. 2) With the sun below 30 degrees above the horizon, light wanes rapidly. If you are using negative film (and if not, may God and all photographic saints be with you) then a good idea is to make one exposure at the setting you think is right, and then one with up to two f-stops more or four times the exposure time. This is because negative film handles 'overexposure' (i.e. more than minimum exposure) well, but is intolerant of less than minimum exposure (i.e. real underexposure). If your M3 is a later version, with the modern shutter speeds (1/30, 1/60, 1/125 ...) then the camera will handle a late Leicameter. These of course are 'outboard' meters that live in the accessory shoe and couple to the speed dial. Late model M4 meters used CdS cells and will accept present, mercury-free Wein cells. A competent mechanic may have to calibrate the meter anew though by the internal trimming potentiometers. The only thing about the Leicameters that is not self-explanatory is that the angle of acceptance of an M4 meter is about equal to that of a 90 mm lens. Press the metering key while looking through the camera finder! The old man from the Age of Selenium Meters Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johannesleitner Posted February 17, 2007 Share #14 Posted February 17, 2007 Hello Alessandro, maybe you find this Ultimate Exposure Computer useful. If you own a pocket pc you can try the free Pocket PC Freeware Downloads regards Johannes Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calshot Posted February 17, 2007 Share #15 Posted February 17, 2007 Welcome Alessandro If they still do it you could use the exposure charts provided with the film you use.Some had a leaflet, some printed out on the box. It would be relevant to the speed of film you are using. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepalese Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted February 18, 2007 The 'sunny sixteen' rule was originally conceived in Sunny California. Where I live, at close to 60 degrees North, it is more like 'sunny eleven', especially in the winter. Even so, remember: 1) Sunny sixteen is for the sun behind your back. Open up between 1/2 and 2/3 of a stop with sidelight, 1 1/2 for oblique backlighting. 2) With the sun below 30 degrees above the horizon, light wanes rapidly. If you are using negative film (and if not, may God and all photographic saints be with you) then a good idea is to make one exposure at the setting you think is right, and then one with up to two f-stops more or four times the exposure time. This is because negative film handles 'overexposure' (i.e. more than minimum exposure) well, but is intolerant of less than minimum exposure (i.e. real underexposure). If your M3 is a later version, with the modern shutter speeds (1/30, 1/60, 1/125 ...) then the camera will handle a late Leicameter. These of course are 'outboard' meters that live in the accessory shoe and couple to the speed dial. Late model M4 meters used CdS cells and will accept present, mercury-free Wein cells. A competent mechanic may have to calibrate the meter anew though by the internal trimming potentiometers. The only thing about the Leicameters that is not self-explanatory is that the angle of acceptance of an M4 meter is about equal to that of a 90 mm lens. Press the metering key while looking through the camera finder! The old man from the Age of Selenium Meters Ok Lars, I understood and I will remember your advice during the exposition. My M3 is the last version with the modern shutter speeds, but I don't like leicamenter...if I must use an exposure meter I would like to buy the digital pentax exposure. What do you think about this? thank you bye, Alessandro Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted February 18, 2007 Share #17 Posted February 18, 2007 Ok Lars, I understood and I will remember your advice during the exposition. My M3 is the last version with the modern shutter speeds, but I don't like leicamenter...if I must use an exposure meter I would like to buy the digital pentax exposure. What do you think about this? thank you bye, Alessandro Alessandro, what I use today are a couple of Gossen meters:an analog old Gossen Lunasix F because it meters flashlight, and is utterly reliable; a Gossen Sixtomat Digital because it is flat and light; and an ancient Quantum Calcu-Light X because it is small and so utterly robust that you could drop it from the third floor and it would still work. I am not in the know about later models. The reason why I like to carry such a meter even with a camera with integral metering is *incident light metering* with the little white translucent hemisphere. Metering this way is the only absolutely certain metering, because you are guaranteed to get your highlights absolutely right, which is vital with both reversal films and digital sensors. And if such meters had been available in the 1930's, Ansel and Edward would never have bothered to invent the Zone System. (Which BTW is nonsense -- Adams and Weston did not know what they were talking about.) The old man of the Age of Selenium Meters Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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