kidigital Posted October 5, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have a few samples of the Nokton/M9 combination posted over on flickr if anyone is interested. Here's the link: Leica M9/CV50 f1.1 Nokton - a set on Flickr Kurt Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/99106-several-cv5011-nokton-samples/?do=findComment&comment=1062117'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 5, 2009 Posted October 5, 2009 Hi kidigital, Take a look here Several CV50/1.1 Nokton Samples. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
ulrikft Posted October 5, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 5, 2009 Thanks for the samples! Nice images It seems like sharp wide open, neutral bokeh is the most correct description? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matlep Posted October 5, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 5, 2009 Really nice! Seems like a nice combo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulrikft Posted October 5, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 5, 2009 If I end up with a M9 used in a year, this will be my normal lens. This and a 24 color skopar and a 90mm of some sort. How is the 50 1.1 stopped down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 5, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 5, 2009 How big does it feel on an M9? The 35/1.2 I had, felt quite unwieldy. Have you run any focus accuracy tests yet on a chart, as one of the pre-requisites of a very fast lens like this, is that it actually does position its very small DOF accurately either side of the object on which you focussing. That has been my problem with CV lenses, that every one I have had, needed its back/front focus adjusting. On the assumption that on your lens, the static wide open focus is accurate, have you seen evidence of aperture shift? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidigital Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted October 5, 2009 Thanks for the comment Ulrik. You are correct in your description ... sharp wide open with neutral bokeh. Also lower contrast and saturation than a Leica lens ... although that is something you can boost in post-processing to suit your taste. Having shot with a late version f1.0 Canadian Noctilux on an M8 for six months several year's ago, I'd say that the Nokton is certainly sharper wide-open (and stopped down). At times, it displays the very similar swirly bokeh to the old Noctilux ... interesting, but can get out of hand at times. I need to shoot with it more, but I'd say that one area where I preferred the old Noctilux is in the transition from sharp to out-of-focus. With the Nokton, it's very abrupt ... with the Noctilux, there was a subtlety in the transition that I find more appealing. The Nokton is excellent stopped down. Very sharp ... nothing from preventing you from using it as a normal lens. Although, I'd love for it to have a minimum focus of .7m vs 1m. As far as value is concerned, for the price, is there a better priced low-light and all-around lens out there? William, although I've shied away from any sort of accuracy tests (it's a personal thing as I find that I just end up becoming too obsessed with testing and not shooting) I have shot a wide range of manual focus lenses on the DMR (80lux, 180cron), M8 (Noct, 75lux), MFDB (110 Zeiss Planar) to have a feel for a comfort level with the lens (focus accuracy and shift) in real-world shooting. That being said, I'll sell a lens quickly that doesn't deliver wide-open. There is no need to in this instance, however, as this copy really sings on both the M8.2 and M9. Focus wide-open is fast and accurate. If I purchase a lens to use wide-open, I'm going to use it wide-open. That being said, it is a little bit big if you don't like fat lenses. I haven't found that the size bothers me at all, but I'm used to shooting with quite a few larger lenses. A real positive of the Nokton is that it seems to be calibrated for quicker focus than what I remember the Noctilux as being. If I remember correctly, it seems like I was always hunting for focus on the (f1.0) Noctilux. Focus on the Nokton just feels quicker and more accurate. I hope this helps. By the way, here's a link to a set with the Nokton on the M8.2: Leica M8 CV50/1.1 Nokton - a set on Flickr Kurt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulrikft Posted October 5, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 5, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for the detailed reply and the samples! Seems like this is the perfect normal for me (and my budget.. ) if I end up with an used M9 when they appear on the market in a few months! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted October 5, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 5, 2009 Kurt, I hear what you say about not testing but what I hate getting is the "I am sure I focussed correctly on that" scenario. I got that quite a lot with the CV 35/1.2 I had, so I tested it and found it was back focussing wide open at 2 meters by about 15 cm, which meant that it was pretty much outside the DOF for the focus point and everything behind the object I was focussing on, was totally OOF. I now do a quick test with all new or second hand lenses I buy. The new Summarit 75 I bought 18 months ago, was even further out than the CV 35 Nokton, so I took it straight back to the dealer and changed it for another one, which I made sure I tested in the shop. I have just bought a mint looking 11826 50mm coded Summicron from the USA. It is both back focusing by about 6 cm at 2 meters and not hitting infinity on the rangefinder. The seller has offered to pay for adjustment in the UK. If I had carried on just using the lens, I would have thought "what a disappointing lens". When something is not in focus I want to be sure it is the idiot behind the lens who is at fault and not the lens itself. Unfortunately the idiot behind the lens is beyond adjustment. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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