ho_co Posted September 28, 2009 Share #21 Posted September 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... given the low amounts trickling into the US market (allegedly 8 last week, 20 the week before). Roey, where on earth do you get these "alleged" numbers? Aren't there more than 28 USAnians on this forum who already have M9s? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Hi ho_co, Take a look here Leica on Short working week. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest roey Posted September 28, 2009 Share #22 Posted September 28, 2009 Roey, where on earth do you get these "alleged" numbers? Aren't there more than 28 USAnians on this forum who already have M9s? The twenty from the week before last week came from David Farkas, who I consider to be a reliable source (M9 users review coming - The GetDPI Workshop Forums). The eight from last week came from this post http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m9-forum/98807-m9-us-shipping-estimate-2.html. I am not sure how reliable the source is, that's why I used the term "alleged". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted September 28, 2009 Share #23 Posted September 28, 2009 The latest news I can find (13 Sep) is about the successful intro of the M9. There was an article in the Frankfurter Rundschau about a 20% shorter work week (since May 2009) at Leica (Belegschaft in Kurzarbeit: Leica tiefer in roten Zahlen | Frankfurter Rundschau - Hessen), but that article is more than two months old. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 28, 2009 Share #24 Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for the sources, Roey. At the moment I can't find the article I referred to in regard to Leica's attempt to get its workers to go along with the elimination of the holiday period. I recall that Spiller made the point that Leica was financially strapped and needed more help from its employees. At the time, I believe that the (a?) union was undecided whether to go along. Definitely a story to be aware of, though I personally feel it's not directly relevant to M9 deliveries. They'll come when they come, and our protestations won't speed or delay them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted September 28, 2009 Share #25 Posted September 28, 2009 Thanks for the sources, Roey. At the moment I can't find the article I referred to in regard to Leica's attempt to get its workers to go along with the elimination of the holiday period. I recall that Spiller made the point that Leica was financially strapped and needed more help from its employees. Well, there is this article from the Gießener Anzeiger, where they talk about cutting the holiday bonuses: Gießener Anzeiger - Leica-Mitarbeiter sollen das Unternehmen retten Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 29, 2009 Share #26 Posted September 29, 2009 Yes, that's the one! Thanks for hunting it down for me! Was mentioned on forum at http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/96547-what-happening-leica.html#post1012277. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 29, 2009 Share #27 Posted September 29, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) OK everyone, what are we going to do about this crisis? I vote that we each pay Leica €2000 as a 'loyalty' payment and also agree to a 35% price increase on all products. That should provide some help at least right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted September 29, 2009 Share #28 Posted September 29, 2009 Yes, that's the one! Thanks for hunting it down for me! Was mentioned on forum at http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/customer-forum/96547-what-happening-leica.html#post1012277. Ok, but that article doesn't mention that the employees would be asked to work through the holidays. It was about them being asked to forgo their holiday bonuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 29, 2009 Share #29 Posted September 29, 2009 OK everyone, what are we going to do about this crisis? I vote that we each pay Leica €2000 as a 'loyalty' payment and also agree to a 35% price increase on all products. That should provide some help at least right? Even better, James, is that we all sign up to apprentice at Leica for the next seven years. For the first three we'll be learning Feinmechanik and getting in the way, slowing down the M9 production. By then we'll be good enough to work on the line assembling the M11. Or maybe they'll ask us to keep our eyes glued to this forum to see if anything interesting is happening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 29, 2009 Share #30 Posted September 29, 2009 Ok, but that article doesn't mention that the employees would be asked to work through the holidays. It was about them being asked to forgo their holiday bonuses. You're correct, of course. Just shoddy memory from my side. Sorry to have caused the ruckus. My mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 29, 2009 Share #31 Posted September 29, 2009 Or perhaps we can each sponsor a Leica worker - take them in for a week, feed them up, take them to the seaside, send gift parcels of chutney and sugared almonds at Xmas, that kind of thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 29, 2009 Share #32 Posted September 29, 2009 Pecan pie! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted September 29, 2009 Share #33 Posted September 29, 2009 Leica is into a lot of things right now. If there is any sort of reduced work week going on there, management will ensure that it doesn't affect delivery of (and payment for) any high-demand item. Relax and enjoy the anticipation. Eat the pecan pie yourself, maybe. The M9 is going to be great fun! Later, Clyde Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted September 29, 2009 Share #34 Posted September 29, 2009 Clearly dramatic action is required. I for one grabbed my beloved M8 and headed out to lake Arrowhead for a day of taking pictures with a wonderful reliable camera. as a matter of fact Im sure I will be perfectly happy with my M8 until the M9 arrives. My dealer in Los Angeles told me that they have pre-sold more than 25 of these. clearly Leica Solms have all the interest in the world to make these cameras materialize as quickly as they possible can, both for my dealer who is looking for his cut, and for their cashflow. After all, 25 M9's represent roughly 200,000 usd. Dear Leica, I love my M8 and look forward to my M9, please take your time and make sure its tweaked as tightly as possible before I get it. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted September 29, 2009 Share #35 Posted September 29, 2009 Shortage/late delivery of parts from one of the suppliers. Don't forget that other plants are also on part-time working. Leica most likely have to carefully balance output (hence income) vs. costs. I suspect that the demand for the M9 has possibly taken them by surprise just a little! Massive demand which currently seems to show no sign of abating will keep them busy for quite a while, which is good. Patience, grasshoppers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted September 29, 2009 Share #36 Posted September 29, 2009 Bo I have to agree, action is required. For myself, I have picked up my M7 and will shoot nothing but film until it arrives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holger1 Posted September 29, 2009 Share #37 Posted September 29, 2009 Hello, the LEICA M9 is produced at the moment in the 2 layer company. Greetings from Wetzlar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 29, 2009 Share #38 Posted September 29, 2009 Patience, grasshoppers! Grasshoppers! That's pretty benign for this crowd, Brian. We're more like preying mantises! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 29, 2009 Share #39 Posted September 29, 2009 Holger--Thanks for the reassurance from the source! What exactly do you mean when you refer to the "2-layer company"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted September 29, 2009 Share #40 Posted September 29, 2009 Holger--Thanks for the reassurance from the source! What exactly do you mean when you refer to the "2-layer company"? I think they mean Portugal and Solms, but we'll wait for confirmation . Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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