angeche Posted September 26, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 26, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, I have bought in the last months a leica IIIb, a leca R8 and a Linhof Technika IV. More cameras than spare time to use them. As much as I like the Leica IIIb, I do not feel comfortable using it. I may be wrong, but I fear subjecting it to excessive use. I want to use it from time to time. Anyway....I am thinking on getting a M leica. But no, do not tell me the M6, it is too expensive:(. So...what M you would reccomend, targeting around 1200$/1000€ for body and camera. I like the looks of the M4, but I am lost on lens. The main problem of the M4 is the lack of through the lens metering (I have read it has a light meter, but I am not sure where)? Any other issues with the M4? Any other reccomendations on M cameras? On the lens, I know the question is too wide. But the question would be what is the best value for money general purpose (50 mm?) lens? Sorry for these rather long/difficult questions. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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el.nino Posted September 26, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 26, 2009 A used M6 ist around 600€. A used Summicron 50 about 500€. So where's the problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 26, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 26, 2009 M6 35 Summaron f2.8 You will have some change. And a lot of fun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angeche Posted September 26, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted September 26, 2009 A used M6 ist around 600€.A used Summicron 50 about 500€. So where's the problem? Well, the cheapest M6 I have seen is around 1200 €. Maybe I am looking at the wrong places.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted September 26, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 26, 2009 You should be able to get an M6 for about £600-700 if you are in Europe, they will be cheap as chips if you buy in the UK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
el.nino Posted September 26, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 26, 2009 You should be able to get an M6 for about £600-700 should be cheaper if you are lucky. at least for a M6 CLASSIC. don't go for the M6 TTL Version. they are more expensive and taller (than M2,3,4,MP) but don't have any real benefit (except you really need TTL-flash-metering). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 26, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 26, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) You shouldn't worry about using the lllb - have it CLA'd if you must and just use it! Pretty much all the parts are replaceable. However, if you want to buy an M I agree you should be able to find an M6 within budget. You could also consider an M2 which is an older model with 35/50/90 frame lines and no built in meter. Lenses - lots of choice. You could opt for an older 50mm Elmar, a 35 Summaron as Andy has said or look at the Voigtlander lenses. I also suggest that you look at the buy/sell forum here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando Posted September 26, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 26, 2009 I highly recommend the M4-P. Pair it with a 35mm Summicron III and add a small Sekonic L-208 or Gossen Digisix meter for a nice, compact and economical kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted September 26, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 26, 2009 I highly recommend the M4-P. Pair it with a 35mm Summicron III and add a small Sekonic L-208 or Gossen Digisix meter for a nice, compact and economical kit. I agree with Nando about the summicron third version, except I recommend the M2 instead of the M4-P. The M2 has singular framelines for the 35 50 and 90; also it has the classic styling to boot! The added benefit to buying a M2 is that you should be able to find one for less than either a M6 or a M4-P. Learning to shoot without a light meter will make you more sensitive to light and at the same time über-manly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angeche Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted September 28, 2009 I went finally for a non TTL M6. I paid a bit more than indicated here, 700 euros, but in the end I prefered to buy from a dealer (more expensive but sure that the camera will be working) than from a private seller. The facility of having a light meter was what decided me. Still no lenses though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted September 28, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 28, 2009 There is always the Leica CL with one of those wonderful 40 mm lenses. I do think that 40 mm is a wonderful focul length. I tried one once when I wanted something more compact to take to the Alps but the Rollei 35T won in the end due to price Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AgXlove Posted September 28, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 28, 2009 M3 DS (7+) for 612.83 euros ($895 U.S.), 50/2.0 rigid Summicron (8+) for 393.718 euros ($575 U.S.) = 1006.62 euros ($1470 U.S.): LEICA M :: Camera West ...and a gazillion other M's and lenses to choose from Camera West are good guys to work with, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted September 29, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 29, 2009 Hi, I have bought in the last months a leica IIIb, a leca R8 and a Linhof Technika IV. More cameras than spare time to use them. As much as I like the Leica IIIb, I do not feel comfortable using it. I may be wrong, but I fear subjecting it to excessive use. I want to use it from time to time. Anyway....I am thinking on getting a M leica. But no, do not tell me the M6, it is too expensive:(. So...what M you would reccomend, targeting around 1200$/1000€ for body and camera. I like the looks of the M4, but I am lost on lens. The main problem of the M4 is the lack of through the lens metering (I have read it has a light meter, but I am not sure where)? Any other issues with the M4? Any other reccomendations on M cameras? On the lens, I know the question is too wide. But the question would be what is the best value for money general purpose (50 mm?) lens? Sorry for these rather long/difficult questions. Cheers 1,000€ is already $1,450 USD, not $1,200. That's a big difference. Never heard of a M4 with a light meter. But you could add a nice Voigtlander VC II meter on top of a M4, which is a fabulous camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smb Posted September 29, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 29, 2009 The M6 Classic has a meter, $1200 to $1400 dollars. An older circa 1970's Summicron 2/50mm $700 - $800. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmarkham Posted September 29, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 29, 2009 I absolutely love my CL. Compact, light, accurate meter and wonderful 40mm Summicron lens. Fantastic camera that is way overlooked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 30, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 30, 2009 The OP has already bought the camera if you see his post above! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicefor88 Posted September 30, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 30, 2009 I went finally for a non TTL M6. I paid a bit more than indicated here, 700 euros, but in the end I prefered to buy from a dealer (more expensive but sure that the camera will be working) than from a private seller. The facility of having a light meter was what decided me. Still no lenses though... Hi Jose, There are good advices here but you can see that our fellow members recommend their own favourites (makes sense!), so you had a tough decision to take and finally chose the M6TTL (for a very good price). I've been using this camera I bought back in 1998 together with a 35/2 Summicron asph. I emptied my piggy bank for the matter:D at that time. I have no regrets at all, in the contrary. That pair is absolutely fantastic. I do believe they were made for each other. That's the only lens I have on the camera and I couldn't possibly find a reason to attach another lens to my beloved M6. I've become absolutely die hard about the 35mm focal length. I admit the Summicron is costly but I would rather recommend to a serious photographer to save enough for a top lens instead of going for something cheaper. The only situation with my rangefinder is the difficulty to focus accurately in back light conditions (flare). I also regret the focusing area is so small and too centered compared with the easy focusing on my F3's whole screen. But many Leicaists do not agree on this point. Now that my sight is not as sharp and steady as before, I sometimes use an autofocus reflex camera but won't part with my M6 anyway. Enjoy your new tool and don't be afraid to have it work overtime and in all conditions! Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 1, 2009 Share #18 Posted October 1, 2009 Well I think you made the right choice. Even if 35 isnt your favourite focal length a 35 summicron would have to be the best lens to start and learn with too I reckon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
angeche Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share #19 Posted October 7, 2009 Ok, The Leica M6 is here and I bought a Summicron IV 2/35mm, non asph. And this weekend the game starts! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted October 7, 2009 Share #20 Posted October 7, 2009 Ok, The Leica M6 is here and I bought a Summicron IV 2/35mm, non asph. And this weekend the game starts! An excellent starter kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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