laglaph Posted September 12, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, did any one of you who got a chance to talk to the leica execs and technitions leading up to and during the M9 lauch get any indication of a 28MM Summilux 1.4(?)? Thanks Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tourmie green Posted September 12, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 12, 2009 or maybe a 0.55x M9 with 24/35-50/75-90 frame combinations; £4k is an expensive lens to have to use a seperate finder with ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
innerimager Posted September 12, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 12, 2009 yes, this questions seems central to the wide angle M8 vs M9 decision. Assuming we want to use in camera frame-lines, not an external VF, and use current Leica lenses, do we prefer a 28/2 on the M9 or an equivalent 32/1.4 (using the 24 lux) on the M8? If I had to pick, I think it would be the "32mm"/1.4 and M8. If I were to make a big purchase this year, I think I'd be more inclined to get the 24/1.4 and keep my M8, rather than an M9. A 28/1.4 would certainly change things a lot! best....Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paisatge Posted September 18, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 18, 2009 so, ok we didn't see a 28mm summilux on 09/09/09 but should we be expecting one soon? I'm planning to pick up a 28mm summicron but if a summilux is coming, I would pick up the Elmarit now and wait for it What do you reckon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verners Posted September 18, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 18, 2009 I'm in exactly the same situation, i want a 28 summicron, but am afraid that a summilux is just around the corner... And the only reason i wont go for a 24mm (even though i would like that one more) is that i dont want an extra viewfinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackal Posted September 18, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 18, 2009 i think i am going to get an ultron and wait for the 28 lux (if there is such a thing) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted September 18, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 18, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've no idea about a 28 'lux (although it seems logical) What I DO know is that the 28 'cron on the M9 is an absolutely stellar performer - sharp to the corners and deliciously wide for all sorts of situations. It's also really small (I've been shooting it without the huge lens hood and had almost no flare issues), and, of course, it's the widest lens you can get and still use the viewfinder. I know there are different opinions about how much better at high ISO the M9 is, I think it's a great improvement (especially if you want colour), but even if you don't agree, the extra size of the sensor and respective enlargements gives you around a stop difference for prints (see Sean Reid's excellent discussion on this). Basically, to my mind, the 28 'cron on the M9 gives you the same FOV as the 21 'lux on the M8, but for 1/2 the price and much less than 1/2 the size, and without the need for a viewfinder . . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentleman Villain Posted September 18, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 18, 2009 A 28 lux would probably be a good selling lens for Leica, but I would be more than happy with a 28 cron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 18, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 18, 2009 Leica has a policy of not talking about future products (real or imagined) and they have said nothing about a 28/1.4. But it is a lens that makes a lot of sense, IMO. Since we're discussing lenses, I've been particularly pleased by the 35 Summicron on the M9. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted September 18, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 18, 2009 Leica has a policy of not talking about future products (real or imagined) and they have said nothing about a 28/1.4. But it is a lens that makes a lot of sense, IMO. Since we're discussing lenses, I've been particularly pleased by the 35 Summicron on the M9. Cheers, Sean . . . and if you're a cheapskate, like me, then the tiny 35 Summarit works wonderfully well on the M9 too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guidomo Posted September 18, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 18, 2009 I've been particularly pleased by the 35 Summicron on the M9. Is that the Asph or the Version IV? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 18, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 18, 2009 Is that the Asph or the Version IV? Current ASPH version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 18, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 18, 2009 . . . and if you're a cheapskate, like me, then the tiny 35 Summarit works wonderfully well on the M9 too. Given the number of lenses you have, you're not really a very effective cheapskate. <G> Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowich Posted September 18, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 18, 2009 Leica has a policy of not talking about future products (real or imagined) and they have said nothing about a 28/1.4. But it is a lens that makes a lot of sense, IMO. Since we're discussing lenses, I've been particularly pleased by the 35 Summicron on the M9. Cheers, Sean hi sean, any back/front focus issues on it? thanks in advance, peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 18, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 18, 2009 Given the likely price of a 28 lux, I would just buy the 28 cron second hand and trade up when/if the lux becomes available. (Or - in my case - when the 28 lux becomes available second hand). The carry cost will be relatively trivial, basically you would most likely end up dropping a couple of hundred pounds to 'lease' the 28 Cron for the duration. If I had to punt on it - I'd say a new 35lux is a more likely next lens anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noah_addis Posted September 18, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 18, 2009 I'd be very unlikely to go for a 28 Summilux which, if it ever is made, would probably cost at least $5500, if not $6k. The 28 'Cron is an amazing lens on film and I assume it will be on the M9 (and I trust jono's judgement on this one). It's small too, and uses normal filters instead of the series filters and mandatory screw-on hoods of the 21 and 24 'Luxes. It makes sense for Leica to offer one since it is a gap in the current lineup, but I don't think I'd buy one. To those thinking of getting a 28 'Cron now and afraid that a 28 'lux will come out--my advice would be to buy a secondhand 28 'Cron. You won't lose much money if you decide to sell. And probably you'll decide to keep it, since it's such a wonderful lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 18, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 18, 2009 hi sean,any back/front focus issues on it? thanks in advance, peter I haven't done the formal testing. I've just been using it for normal photography. I won't really know the answer to your question until I do that formal testing. I don't see any in my normal work but that's not definitive at all. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted September 18, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 18, 2009 Word of caution, both my 28 Cron and 35 Cron Asph's back focus at f/4 and f/5.6 on both of my M8s (they are perfect on my M7). So if you can, test before you buy. A friend that just bought a new 35 Cron Asph also is observing significant back focus at all apertures on his M8. I have no idea what sort of tests Leica is running on its lenses for focus shifting, but the tolerances are not tight enough. Before someone chimes in claiming the problem are the M8s, both have had RF calibration and sensor alignment and function perfectly with my 21 Elmarit Asph, 24 Elmarit Asph, and 75 Cron. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 18, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 18, 2009 I have this gut instinct recently (not born out by any formal testing yet) that one of the great Leica lens sets for the M9 might be the current Summicrons (28, 35 and 50 for starters). They're not as fast as the Lux lenses but they're more affordable yet still fairly fast. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 18, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 18, 2009 Word of caution, both my 28 Cron and 35 Cron Asph's back focus at f/4 and f/5.6 on both of my M8s (they are perfect on my M7). So if you can, test before you buy. A friend that just bought a new 35 Cron Asph also is observing significant back focus at all apertures on his M8. I have no idea what sort of tests Leica is running on its lenses for focus shifting, but the tolerances are not tight enough. Before someone chimes in claiming the problem are the M8s, both have had RF calibration and sensor alignment and function perfectly with my 21 Elmarit Asph, 24 Elmarit Asph, and 75 Cron. That's actually focus shift if the lenses are spot-on wide open. There's a bit of focus shift in the 35 Cron (as per my tests on the M8) but it is minor. It may be that your lenses already back focus just a bit wide open (which is a camera and lens issue sometimes). I have not yet tested the 28 Cron for focus shift but will do so on the M9. I'm headed out for a shoot today with the M9, 35 Cron and 28 Cron. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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