medved Posted August 27, 2009 Share #1 Posted August 27, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) OK, I use lots of Leicas; not super fond of my M8 and prefer the handling characteristics of earlier M's by far; love the D-Lux 4 with that terrific lens that does B&W fabulously for me, just wish it had a real viewfinder. But I shoot a lot of infrared with a Leica lens, on a converted Panasonic camera. So, should I post these as Leica shots, or just slink off into the corner embarrassed that the body is so mundane (and light, and convenient)? I have an exhibit opening in a couple of weeks of these mostly of Angkor Thom and will send a reference to a couple of websites that will have some when they're up if anyone's interested. I've found in my travels that infrared adds spice and the digital is very easy to use though I've used infrared film for many years. Anyway, what qualifies as a Leica? What if I used a screw mount Leica lens on an old FED, or an Industar on a Leica body? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 27, 2009 Posted August 27, 2009 Hi medved, Take a look here Is it a Leica, or..... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Tenor1 Posted August 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted August 27, 2009 I cannot answer your question but have my own for you. Is it possible to create an IF shot with the DL4? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 27, 2009 Share #3 Posted August 27, 2009 Do you mean for posting here? If so the only qualification is that the body or lens (or both of course) are from Leica - that includes Panasonic P&S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted August 27, 2009 Share #4 Posted August 27, 2009 OK, I use lots of Leicas; not super fond of my M8 and prefer the handling characteristics of earlier M's by far; love the D-Lux 4 with that terrific lens that does B&W fabulously for me, just wish it had a real viewfinder. But I shoot a lot of infrared with a Leica lens, on a converted Panasonic camera. So, should I post these as Leica shots, or just slink off into the corner embarrassed that the body is so mundane (and light, and convenient)? I have an exhibit opening in a couple of weeks of these mostly of Angkor Thom and will send a reference to a couple of websites that will have some when they're up if anyone's interested. I've found in my travels that infrared adds spice and the digital is very easy to use though I've used infrared film for many years. Anyway, what qualifies as a Leica? What if I used a screw mount Leica lens on an old FED, or an Industar on a Leica body? Not sure if your question is with respect to this forum, or just in general. Without actually reading the forum rules (i.e., based on comments the mods have made and the general self-policing of the user community), my take on usage of this forum is that Leica gear should be involved in the equation, whether that means a Leica lens on another camera body (example: R lenses on EOS bodies, M lenses on a micro 4/3), or non-Leica lenses on Leica bodies. For the digital compact cameras, discussion and image posting should relate to the Leica-branded models (such as the D-Lux 4, C-Lux line, Digilux line), but latitude has always been given to those that own the similar Panasonic models. Now, if your question is more along the lines of "are the compact cameras co-developed with Panasonic real Leicas", I don't think there's an absolute answer. Leica Camera AG certainly would consider them real Leicas --- they sell them under their brand name, through their distribution and dealer network, and support them through their local agencies (Leica USA in New Jersey, Leica UK in Milton Keynes, etc.). But many users of the traditional M and R series don't consider them to be legitimate. I guess I fall somewhere in the middle. I own 2 Leica Ms, 2 Leica Rs, many M and R lenses, and currently a D-Lux 4 and C-Lux 2. I've owned every model of Digilux from the Digilux 1 on, and every model of D-Lux since the original. I've been very pleased with all of the Leica compact cameras, as well as the Digiluxes. And I appreciate the fact that Leica has a diverse product line (Canon and Nikon have an entire range of cameras for different types of users and budgets; why not Leica?). But I certainly don't consider the PanaLeicas the equal of the M or the R, I don't enjoy using them as much, and I don't value them as much. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 27, 2009 Share #5 Posted August 27, 2009 Post them. All you need is either a Leica lens or a Leica body in the shooting process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
medved Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted August 28, 2009 I cannot answer your question but have my own for you. Is it possible to create an IF shot with the DL4? Thanks You can and I have, but it's not quick or convenient requiring a long exposure with a real infrared filter on it. The Panasonic I use shoots in full sun with a filter at 5.6 at 250th, etc., and I successfully use it on program mode or aperture priority so it's a very handy travel camera. Not much PS work needed except to enhance contrast a bit (I actually shoot in b&w so I can see the effect I'll get). If you really want to do a lot of infrared work you can get cameras and conversions at LDP NET, which is where my Leica-lensed Panasonic was converted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
medved Posted August 28, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted August 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Post them. All you need is either a Leica lens or a Leica body in the shooting process. Thanks Stu, I will. Right now there are some IFR Leica shots on my website A Photographer's Notebook - David Miller under Egypt, Spain, Northern Light (mostly Norway), but the Cambodia ones aren't up on this site yet. The Afghan series was done with a IIIg a long time ago; the Russia and Seaside series with an M more recently. Very excited about doing some good work with the Ms and the D Lux in Ghana and Mali in January! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenor1 Posted August 28, 2009 Share #8 Posted August 28, 2009 Thanks for sharing those options MedVed, I appreciate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted August 28, 2009 Share #9 Posted August 28, 2009 For the One Challenge we use the "Leica lens and/or body" rule. For the Barnack Challenge it is "Leica body, any lens". For the D-Lux 4/LX-3 Challenge we allow either Leica or Panasonic. The common theme is that either the glass the image passes through or the body that the film sits in originates from Leica. I use CV and Canon lenses on my M and Barnack bodies, and R glass on my Olympus DSLR. Hope this helps. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giordano Posted August 28, 2009 Share #10 Posted August 28, 2009 Post them. All you need is either a Leica lens or a Leica body in the shooting process. Or a Leica adapter between a third-party M-mount body and a third-party screw-mount lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted August 28, 2009 Share #11 Posted August 28, 2009 Or a Leica adapter between a third-party M-mount body and a third-party screw-mount lens? Hardly, any more than using a Leica remote release would qualify. Body and/or lens Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnPirat Posted August 28, 2009 Share #12 Posted August 28, 2009 .. my website A Photographer's Notebook - David Miller... great pictures! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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