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This is bad I think.. on my M8.2 .. HELP


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These were some photos that I took when I was at the AC.MILAN VS GALAXY game last night,,,, most of the photo were great ,, but there are a few photos that had this crazy

green bar across the top of the screen especially when the framing involves the HID stadium light on the top portion of the photo.

 

Can anyway tell me what this is ? is it something fixable or this means something is happening to my new M8.2 .... ! HELP ~~~~

 

(This is the first time I have seen these green bars since I got the camera a week ago)

 

Thanx for all the help in advance.

 

Jack

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It happens to my pictures every once in a while (not often though), especially at night when a light source is close to the border.

I decided not to worry about it and enjoy the camera for the 99.9% other pictures that come out great.

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It probably doesn't hurt to ask Leica whether they finally have a fix for it -- and let everybody here know if they do. Personally, I have never encountered this problem in 2.5+ years using my M8, but others have. Apparently, moving the camera just a little bit left or right "fixes" the problem, which of course doesn't do you any good if you don't notice it right away.

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Thanx for the link man, so should I be sending this back to LEICA to ask them to fix it , or is something that we should worry about ?

They cannot fix it; it is some pecularity of the CCD and attempts to circumvent the issue in firmware have been unsuccessful. It is just something to keep in mind: avoid bright sources of light at or just outside the left or right edges of the image.

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Regard it in the same category as flare. Everybody knows that shooting straight into sunlight will, in certain circumstances, produce flare patches, and allows for this. So just be aware in that situation and try to take several, differently framed shots.

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They cannot fix it; it is some pecularity of the CCD and attempts to circumvent the issue in firmware have been unsuccessful. It is just something to keep in mind: avoid bright sources of light at or just outside the left or right edges of the image.

 

Hi Mchael,

How do you know that "attempts were made in firmware to ...".

This is no common knowledge.

Are you in any way connected to Leica?

Hans

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Roey

 

Thanx for the link man, so should I be sending this back to LEICA to ask them to fix it , or is something that we should worry about ?

 

Jack

 

It is a know problem that can NOT be fixed. Just stop putting bright lights at the edges of the images you take.

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Hi Mchael,

How do you know that "attempts were made in firmware to ...".

This is no common knowledge.

Are you in any way connected to Leica?

Hans

 

Hans,

 

Let's just say we'll take Michael's word for it (and many other tech issues). He may not be directly connected to Leica but I would suggest you have a read of LFI some time where I think you'll find Michael's credentials more than credible. ;)

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It is a know problem that can NOT be fixed. Just stop putting bright lights at the edges of the images you take.

 

Sound advice there. I have to admit, you lot are the most forgiving of customers. Imagine this same problem existed on a D3 or 1DS..

 

Oh and it's not a bug, it's a "feature" :)

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I know of other digital cameras that have these kind of problems with lights to the edge of the frame. Even the Canon 5D Mk II, a relatively modern sensor design, will exhibit similar artifacts with bright lights just outside the frame in dark scenes.

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This problem surfaced soon after the M8 was available and I wrote to Stefan Daniel proposing a firmware approach to solving the problem. It seems the bright light is leaking into the reference pixels at each end of each row which are masked off and assumed to be "black". My suggestion was to recognise the wacky reference pixels and take a second frame behind a closed shutter and use the new black reference pixels to "repair" to corrupted ones on the original capture.

 

Whether they tried this I do not know but it's certainly possible it proved impossible to fix the image sufficiently well. It boils down to a design limitation (I hesitate from calling it a flaw) in the sensor.

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I know of other digital cameras that have these kind of problems with lights to the edge of the frame. Even the Canon 5D Mk II, a relatively modern sensor design, will exhibit similar artifacts with bright lights just outside the frame in dark scenes.

 

That is interesting to know.

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I know of other digital cameras that have these kind of problems with lights to the edge of the frame. Even the Canon 5D Mk II, a relatively modern sensor design, will exhibit similar artifacts with bright lights just outside the frame in dark scenes.

 

Please show me.

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I would imagine that it is more pronounced on an M8 due to the extreme angles that light hits the sensor edges compared to most DSLRs. With wider, or other lenses where the rear element to sensor distance is very small, I would think that adequate masking could be quite problematic. However, having said that, it's still not good, and I'm sure that it could be addressed by Leica if they had enough incentive to do so.

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I know of other digital cameras that have these kind of problems with lights to the edge of the frame. Even the Canon 5D Mk II, a relatively modern sensor design, will exhibit similar artifacts with bright lights just outside the frame in dark scenes.

 

I have never seen any similar artifacts from bright lights when using the Canon 5D II.

 

Flare is a different thing and can be created with any camera. Flare may even be desirable in some photos.

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