Vivek Iyer Posted November 11, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) In light of the recent problems with the M8, I would like to see an Epson R-D2 with a Sony 10mp CCD. At the current price of the R-D1s, it would certainly be an attractive alternate to the M8. Your thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 11, 2006 Posted November 11, 2006 Hi Vivek Iyer, Take a look here Time for Epson R-D2?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
johnll Posted November 11, 2006 Share #2 Posted November 11, 2006 Canon used to make (very good) RFs too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted November 11, 2006 Share #3 Posted November 11, 2006 In light of the recent problems with the M8, I would like to see an Epson R-D2 with a Sony 10mp CCD. At the current price of the R-D1s, it would certainly be an attractive alternate to the M8. Your thoughts? I'd prefer the R2-D2... :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivek Iyer Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted November 11, 2006 Left it wide open for that (R2-D2), didn't I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted November 11, 2006 Share #5 Posted November 11, 2006 Left it wide open for that (R2-D2), didn't I? So presumably, the Canon would be the C3PO - Canon's Third (Generation Rangefinder) Photographic Offering... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddawn Posted November 11, 2006 Share #6 Posted November 11, 2006 So presumably, the Canon would be the C3PO - Canon's Third (Generation Rangefinder) Photographic Offering... appropriately so, since Canon SLRS make a louder noise in general - C3PO was talkative! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfogle Posted November 11, 2006 Share #7 Posted November 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) In light of the recent problems with the M8, I would like to see an Epson R-D2 with a Sony 10mp CCD. At the current price of the R-D1s, it would certainly be an attractive alternate to the M8. Your thoughts? As a current user of the R-D1, my thoughts are that no-one makes a better RF unit or viewfinder than Leica. I also personally would prefer a motor wind for the shutter, though I know that's a contentious issue. I'd love to upgrade to the M8 and will, when it gets past the prototype stage. My only reservation is that, for me, I'd prefer an AA filter, albeit a weak one, as I do find the samples I've seen from the M8 look a little over-sharpened, even straight out of the camera. Of course, that may be just the samples I've seen, and the effect of looking at smallish jpgs. Unlike many who have contributed here, I actually like (shock, horror ) the files from the Canon 5D, with their 'fuzzy pixels' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexr Posted November 12, 2006 Share #8 Posted November 12, 2006 I would welocme a R2D2. Nothing like competition... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted November 12, 2006 Share #9 Posted November 12, 2006 An RD2 would have to be GREATLY improved over the current itteration. I have one and it saves my bacon with work, but it is very frustrating to use with all its well documented shortcomings. I find it hard to imagine that a company that will not support its existing product would ever bother to improve/fix so many major issues. I hold my breath each time I do a job with it, and not just to improve camera shake. Roll on the M8 (proper) fix. That is the real camera I need - now!! Cheers, Erl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sievers Posted November 12, 2006 Share #10 Posted November 12, 2006 I wish someone would buy the license to the RD1 and put the camera into second generation production. Mine takes excellent night images in color. BW is as good as digital BW is gonna get, although the tones are not a surrogate for film. It is a pleasure to be able to switch between color and BW and to switch ISO on the fly. Film is not a substitute for this convenience. Unfortunately, the economics of the digital camera market are razor thin. Its a hardsell on paper. I am impressed by the BW images I have seen from the M8 and I was ready to pull the trigger. However, the pricing of this product leaves little room for maneuver. At that price with the red dot it better be a 12+ in performance not just a 10. Certainly not a 0 which is what most consumers would rate a camera that shoots black suits in purple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivek Iyer Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share #11 Posted November 12, 2006 I forgot about Zeiss-Ikon. There is some hope, after all! I want to see viable digital range finders available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted November 12, 2006 Share #12 Posted November 12, 2006 Epson's lackluster acknowledgment and support for the RD1 tells us that the camera, nice as it was, really was a fluke. The center of Epson's business in not in this space; they're very much a printer company. I considered the camera but ultimately rejected it because of the looney need to manually wind it and after seeing all the quality/support problems so many owner's have had. Yes, one does wonder what Zeiss must be doing as they watch Leica struggle with the M8 release. I wouldn't imagine they'll proceed if the project kills Leica, which is possible. Having invested in the M8, I surely hope the project doesn't sink Leica, but he jury is still out. -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted November 12, 2006 Share #13 Posted November 12, 2006 Epson's lackluster acknowledgment and support for the RD1 tells us that the camera, nice as it was, really was a fluke. The center of Epson's business in not in this space; they're very much a printer company. I considered the camera but ultimately rejected it because of the looney need to manually wind it and after seeing all the quality/support problems so many owner's have had. Yes, one does wonder what Zeiss must be doing as they watch Leica struggle with the M8 release. I wouldn't imagine they'll proceed if the project kills Leica, which is possible. Having invested in the M8, I surely hope the project doesn't sink Leica, but he jury is still out. -g Some samples of the RD1 might have slight focus problems, and its only 6MP, but Epson managed to present a digital rangefinder long time before Leica even thought its possible. The Epson service is not that bad, I got replacement pretty quick after my first sample showed focus problems. I´ll get an M8 but I dont understand why people do not accept that the rd1 is a pretty good camera. Dont forget that the rd1 has much quicker acces to iso, wb and exposre comp than the M8. And all this by nice analog controls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin m Posted November 12, 2006 Share #14 Posted November 12, 2006 Forget the R-D2, how about Canon re-enter the rangefinder market? The sensor from the 30D, an M-mount and a price under $2,500 and I'm there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vivek Iyer Posted November 12, 2006 Author Share #15 Posted November 12, 2006 Sure, Epson, Zeiss-Ikon, Nikon, Canon and (Konica-Minolta)Sony, all range finder manufacturers from the past should consider making and selling them. More the merrier! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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