fotografr Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share #21 Posted November 9, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Somehow I don't think that my waiting for Leica to get its act together before I spend $4800. is going to hurt them. And if I spend my $4800 and by some chance the camera never delivers what it's purported to be, well, that 4800 is going to hurt me a lot more than its loss will hurt Leica. Let's remember, Ernst is dead. He died a long time ago. And the people who made my M4 are no longer with the company. The company has changed hands since I bought that camera and lenses and these new guys will have to earn my trust. They haven't earned it yet. And I'll get along fine with the 5D until they figure out how to make an M8 that works. These guys have a checkered history during the past 20 years or so, showing more interest in making silly collector's items than serious cameras for photographers. This business of having your customers be your beta testers rubs me the wrong way. That would never have been done back when Leica cameras were standard issue for professional photographers. Leica is no longer E. Leitz. I'm not sure what it is. But I suspect that we'll find out in the next few months. And then I'll decide whether or not to buy their nice looking new camera. Peter--If you want to continue trashing Leica and the M8, there are a slew of threads here on which to do that. I was hoping we could have some more optimistic points of view on this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cmb_ Posted November 9, 2006 Share #22 Posted November 9, 2006 Nice images Peter and nice to see what the M8 can do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 9, 2006 Share #23 Posted November 9, 2006 I've already said this in the article revisions and in the other thread but I am also going to continue working with the M8 and trying the B+W filters as a solution for now. Despite the problems, I love the camera and the files it makes. Leica has described what solutions they have available in the near future. That doesn't preclude other, better, solutions over the longer term. My impression is that they are taking the concerns very seriously and are working intensively to see what can be done. I do think, for example, that they'll find a solution for the light streaks via a firmware change. The IR issue poses a big challenge but we'll see what they come up with beyond the filters. I think that people who are nervous about the M8 and want to return it should do what they're comfortable with. Then there are others of us who keep forging ahead with it and see what happens. I don't think the baby should be thrown out with the bathwater. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidigital Posted November 9, 2006 Share #24 Posted November 9, 2006 Many of us have had an R-D1 and a few other digital cameras (5D, 10D, 20D, 1DS, etc., personally) and are very aware of the limitations of all systems. In my foolish, glass-is-half-full lunacy, I just choose to work around the issues at hand to arrive at what I find pleases me the most. In the end, I simply choose a different point of view about the whole introduction. Are the M8 issues disappointing?...yes. Do I expect fixes?...yes. In the meanwhile, I'm going to make the best use of my investment as I can (I'm going to shoot somebody). Now, where are my meds ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 9, 2006 Share #25 Posted November 9, 2006 I ate your Meds Kurt. Okay have some filters on the way. Too many of course but i am getting antsy waiting for Fed x to show up, I thought I had the driver bribed that I am always first:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share #26 Posted November 9, 2006 Now, I'm sure Leica will make good in fixing the problem. What choice do they have? But I wouldn't be putting my head in the sand merely out of brand loyalty. You're right, Steve. A lot of us do have brand loyalty, and I'm not the least ashamed to admit it. In my case, brand loyalty is the result of 20 years of Leica photography. They have earned my loyalty and I have decided I'm not going to dump it all because of one bump in the road--and that's all this is. Stay tuned, and have a look at some of the M8 images members of this forum begin to post in the next few days and weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 9, 2006 Share #27 Posted November 9, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Oops spoke to SOON. IT"S HERE .Long pause and breath really deep, damn just coughed. Battery NOW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted November 9, 2006 Share #28 Posted November 9, 2006 [ATTACH]14394[/ATTACH] M8, Elmar 90mm/4 @ 4.0 - RAW + C1 Wow! When the M8 gets it right, it really gets it right, doesn't it. Beautiful picture Peter. Thanks for sharing. It's obvious the camera has tremendous capability, despite the glitches we all know about now. Can they be fixed, too, to make it whole? So anything is possible? Perhaps? Thanks. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share #29 Posted November 9, 2006 Oops spoke to SOON. IT"S HERE .Long pause and breath really deep, damn just coughed. Battery NOW Great news--bribery does pay! Now, you coughed BEFORE you had the M8 in your hands, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermcwerner Posted November 9, 2006 Share #30 Posted November 9, 2006 Peter, is that the new macro Elmar? I have been searching high and low for comments on that lens, and the macro adapter.Carsten, It is a very old Elmar that I bought with the M3. It is still going strong...No macro adapter, just shot at the minimum distance of 1 meter. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermcwerner Posted November 9, 2006 Share #31 Posted November 9, 2006 Nice images Peter and nice to see what the M8 can do.Thank you, Charles. I was getting a bit bored by all the Leica bashing. I think some REAL PURPLE colors are good to see what this little jewel can do.Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermcwerner Posted November 9, 2006 Share #32 Posted November 9, 2006 Wow!When the M8 gets it right, it really gets it right, doesn't it. Beautiful picture Peter. Thanks for sharing. It's obvious the camera has tremendous capability, despite the glitches we all know about now. Thank you Allan. I agree, this camera can make great pictures, and not only B/W street shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
j. borger Posted November 9, 2006 Share #33 Posted November 9, 2006 Finaly an attitude i like .... a positive thread at last .... let's move on and focus on the good things without denying the limitations ....... good start Peter .. ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 9, 2006 Share #34 Posted November 9, 2006 Ah Damn there is no freaking way this goes back. I just tried every lens. I loved them all. Being new to RF , man this is a cake walk. This is so sweet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted November 9, 2006 Author Share #35 Posted November 9, 2006 Ah Damn there is no freaking way this goes back. I just tried every lens. I loved them all. Being new to RF , man this is a cake walk. This is so sweet Hey, are you sure you charged that battery for 3 hours? We've been timing you here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmb_ Posted November 9, 2006 Share #36 Posted November 9, 2006 I think he is just putting the lenses on and off the camera while he waits for the battery to charge. hehehe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 9, 2006 Share #37 Posted November 9, 2006 I had a little bit of battery in there and took advantage of it:D Okay looking at the images i need to practice on focusing a little better . I think this is normal . Now overall in C1 there is a slight pink cast. But this really is a color managemnt issue than anything else and a WB. Have not got into the problem area yet and the battery is charging just wanted try it. here is my 24th shot I think it was at f2 with the 50 lux. Play image folks , nothing special here Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/8839-time-for-a-deep-breath/?do=findComment&comment=88756'>More sharing options...
gogopix Posted November 9, 2006 Share #38 Posted November 9, 2006 Well what a refreshing thread - of reason I am sure My thread on magenta is being ignored since I am considered 'taking this too light' maybe even a Leica apologist, but if people bother to see my exampes, you can fix the Magenta problem (Magenta treat like moire) at least in aout 10 seconds in PS. I didnt even try to optimize, but it tells me a simple development step in C1 with an eyedrop can get this behind us! I am sure Phase can do it regards Victor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted November 9, 2006 Share #39 Posted November 9, 2006 I had a little bit of battery in there and took advantage of it:D Okay looking at the images i need to practice on focusing a little better . I think this is normal . Now overall in C1 there is a slight pink cast. But this really is a color managemnt issue than anything else and a WB. Have not got into the problem area yet and the battery is charging just wanted try it. here is my 24th shot I think it was at f2 with the 50 lux. Play image folks , nothing special here What an appropriate subject - an Impatiens! Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olaff Posted November 9, 2006 Share #40 Posted November 9, 2006 congratulations guy, and thank´s for factual behavior. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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